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But first, let's meet our panelists.

She's the media veteran herself, Wendy Wiese, along with Bill McClellen, one of our founders from the Post Dispatch.

Also from the Post and STLday.com, Joe Holleman.

And from the St.

Louis American Alvin Reid who was in that big snowstorm on Monday and has lived to talk about it.

Um I only 2 to 4 ines.

So it wasn't really a big snowstorm, but the Missouri Department of Transportation admitted that it failed to pre-treat the roads because they thought the snow was going to arrive around four o'clock or so and the snow instead arrived between noon and 1, something like that.

So hundreds if not thousands of motorists had very long commutes.

The streets were jammed.

People were upset.

And Nick Schroer, who's a Republican lawmaker out of St.

Charles, said that it was a public health issue.

In fact, he's going to file legislation he says in January that would withdraw the qualified immunity that MDOT has.

So now people could sue MDOT if they get in an accident because of road conditions.

Also, he wants the legislature to have expanded control over MDOT's budget.

Overall, do you blame MODOT, Alvin, for what happened?

>> Uh, well, I will say this, to expect Mother Nature to act like you think she's supposed to is absurd.

And so, the idea like, well, the snow came, you know, earlier than I thought.

Well, okay, there's a chance that it's going to snow.

Maybe it's not as bad as the people that were at the whatever they were doing while the tornado was roaring through town, but they knew that there was a chance that there was going to be a tornado and that's the folly in what they did.

So I that's no excuse.

Um, by the way, the ancillary road side roads were horrible and they were skating rink by Tuesday.

U that's not the mayor's fault.

I'm just saying that, you know, it was bad in parts of downtown St.

Louis on Tuesday.

Bad idea though to open up MDOT to individual lawsuits.

I think if if MDOT did something to where, you know, it caused a car accident, didn't have anything to do with the weather, maybe that's one thing, but if it's weather and you slide and you crash, that that I mean, there'd be 50,000 lawsuits every year.

>> Sher says that MDOT is not accountable to anybody and he'd like more control over it.

>> Well, that's what scares me.

>> Uh if it's going to be the Missouri legislature that the ones who are now in charge of it.

I I mean I get it's snowing and it's frustrating and I've sat in not this time but I've sat in >> traffic jams and hours and you hate it and you're mad at everybody.

But the idea to allow anybody to sue them and that the solution of this is going to be let the legislators in Jefferson City have even more control over a highway department when they know even less about highway issues than the than the average person.

I think it's one of those it's it was a knee-jerk reaction on his part.

I think it was unfortunate what MDOT decision was to hold off.

But the idea to solve it by Senator Schroer's uh thing, bad worst idea.

>> Well, MDOT doesn't exactly have the same numbers that that it used to have when it comes to the people who go out and plow.

That's that's already that's already something that they're that they're battling.

But what amazes me is we at least on television we see the viper pit viper storm shelter zero hour, you know, gizmo that's going to tell them.

But but but mother nature, like you said, she it's not like a dentist appointment.

She arrives when she feels like it.

>> I don't know.

I um I'm cutting mod some slack on this, too.

And I'm I'm I'm kind of uh critical of mod when it comes to litter pickup and some other issues.

But in this case, Alvin, I think everybody Well, first of all, my iPhone, which has weather, said that the bad weather wasn't going to come until 4:00.

Um I also know that the National Weather Service is completely understaffed.

And I think in 2025 after all these cuts, the forecasts from the National Weather Service are not reliable.

But also, everybody was getting onto the road at the same time.

Like in Clayton in the downtown area, it was jammed.

I mean, the streets were impassible.

Even though not one of those streets is maintained by MoDOT.

Monot has nothing to do with those.

>> Well, I that's what I'm saying that I understand that the snow caught I guess people offguard.

I get that.

But the idea, but but the idea that >> Well, when were they going to pre-treat the road?

Were they going to wait till an hour before it was going to snow?

I mean, why didn't you just It might snow today.

Let's pre-treat the roads.

>> Well, it might be if you pre-treat the roads and time elapses, it's not as effective.

I I don't know.

You know, this whole snow thing, I mean, from Jane Burn in Chicago who was mayor and was blamed for a snowstorm and uh Miss Jones, Char Jones blamed for the snowstorm.

Sometimes you just have to say, "Hey, >> well, I get >> how much you can do."

Well, there was something that could have been done.

I mean, that was because they admitted the snow came early.

It caught us off guard, >> but >> it wasn't like it came two days early.

It came a few hours early.

>> Were they going to try to treat the roads in an hour and a half?

I mean, I I thought they needed a lot more time than that.

>> I just don't know why they didn't just do it in the morning or whatever.

>> It really wasn't even that much snow.

Two to four inches.

>> It just came real.

You know what I think?

I think also I think a lot of people can't drive and they've got bald tires and >> I think it's the driving skills.

Absolutely.

I don't think people know how to drive on dry pavement as well as they used to, much less how to do it in inclement weather.

We have traffic jams with gridlock during rain.

>> We sound we sound like boomers.

I mean, just better drivers.

Yeah.

But what what really is is kind of amazing is the minute the flurries started falling I saw on my phone schools can schools can't it's like what to your point Charlie what has happened you know that they didn't they didn't >> who the idea >> on my phone I I didn't >> give it to the legislature or let lawyers start suing the state >> over weather >> what a what a horrible idea on top of a bad idea >> Joe I want to ask you about a proposal that I think the St.

Louis convention and visitors commission is really generating and and that is to take the regional sports authority which owns the dome stadium in downtown St.

Louis merge it with explore St.

Louis which is the convention of visitors commission so it'll be like one entity but the controversial part if there is one I think is that St.

Louisis County is generating about3 to4 million a year in a tourism only sales tax that's now accumulated to about $50 million.

And the convention and visitors commission would like to give that money to St.

Louis County and say, "Hey, you take it, spend it as you wish.

We'll get the legislature to change the state rules so you can do that."

that right now it's just earmarked for tourism but in the future the dome will get3 to4 million a year add infin item >> yeah I I think this is so much that every lobbyist and politician is figuring this is going to be two years worth of work for them because there are all kinds of plates spinning on this deal first of all the part about combining the boards that just makes sense the dome board did their job the bonds were retired so yeah roll that into it why have two boards when the one really has nothing to do.

So, okay.

Now, when you get down to the other one, the county has this tourism tax.

It generates certain money that already is earmarked for Cardinals and a variety of projects, but they have this three or so million that doesn't get spent.

The county gets to keep it, but they're required to spend it on tourism, sporting related activities.

And like you said, it's somewhere between 50 to $60 million they have right now.

Sam Page doesn't want to send that three million extra to them anymore.

And they're saying, "Yeah, but we're going to need it and everything."

My guess is is, as you said, they're going to write a rule that says, "How about this?

You keep sending us the 3 million, but the 50 55 58 that you have now, you can keep that, which Sam Page would love because they're now talking that there's an $80 million deficit in the county budget.

So, I think there's a whole bunch of backroom log rolling and politics that's going to come into this and some agreement will be reached.

>> You know, there's also the big picture thing of the the dome itself.

I mean, do we really need a 68,000 person stadium and Jacob Barker story in the Post Dispatch said that, you know, officials say this is an advantage to the convention center that conventioneers have this thing available.

And I thought, well, you know, except for a couple concerts a year that that wouldn't play elsewhere, maybe it really seems like we have this white elephant that's just draining money everywhere.

>> The hotel operators say that major conventions use it.

And then of course you've got the Battlehawks, you've got Beyonce, you got Kendrick Lamar, you got the Rolling Stones once in a while.

>> There's there are enough there are enough events.

>> I'm just Did you Did you refer to her as Beyonce?

Like Bayonette?

We only have minutes to go.

>> You've got to keep it because the Rolling Stones come through every time.

>> Actually, you're right.

No, no, actually that is exactly why we have to keep it because one thing, you can't do anything with it.

You can't it.

You can't tear it down.

So, you got to put it to use.

Um, Marshall Faulk just got named coach of Southern University.

I would have them up here next year play a football game against another H.B.CU.

You can find ways to use that stadium.

You just have to find ways to use >> and it's still going to have to be improved.

I I I mean it is going to have to be improved.

>> By the way, the sweets and all that up there where the Rams, where the high rollers were, it's very nice.

I mean, it's very nice still.

>> I wouldn't know.

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Hey, Wendy Wiese I want to ask you about a development that I don't really know what to think about it.

It's called Whimo.

It's a driverless car.

It's like Lift or Uber, you call for it, almost like a taxi, except there's no driver.

Currently, it's operating in places like San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Phoenix, Atlanta, and Austin, but it's not here.

Um, do you feel comfortable uh would you feel comfortable getting into one of these Whimo cars knowing that there's no driver?

>> Wayo way.

No, no, not yet.

Not yet.

Um, they're going to start testing in this marketplace like this week.

So, there are all sorts of people out there, I think, who are really enthusiastic about it.

I am a proud dinosaur from a different era entirely.

And I I I could see one day doing it.

Uh, but but in the early going, no, no, thank you.

when we came back from Seattle driving back um up I forgot which state we were in exactly but it's out there in the wild country on I90 and they had a they said like if you were testing you know driverless cars you had to check in at one point on the highway and then when you were done check out like 15 miles down the highway and it became a reality to me we did not see one in the time we were driving but it really did become a reality that boy if they're out here driving and speed limit is like 80 miles an hour up there.

If they're out here driving 80 miles an hour, that means that pretty soon these are going to be everywhere and it's here.

I once wrote a column and I did get in trouble, but Brit Airways it served Danville.

I wrote in it just being fun.

I said like you know Brit that sounds like the noise when a propeller hits a tree and they said like no.

So, I think the name this service whammo is kind of like >> Yeah.

>> Well, here's the thing.

Yeah.

The Wall Street Journal just had a piece that uh in some cities the Whimo driverless vehicles are starting to break the law.

They're doing illegal U-turns.

They're like starting at um uh at green lights very fast, almost hitting pedestrians.

And they ran over a cat called KitKat in San Francisco.

I I'm I'm enthused about this.

You know, I on one hand, I think the driverless vehicles are going to really hurt the economy and, you know, truck drivers are going to lose their jobs.

Taxi cab drivers are going to lose their jobs.

But for old people, all of a sudden, you know, road trip, you just get in the car and say Nashville.

And it'll be a huge boon for restaurants and taverns.

I mean, right now people go out and wisely don't don't drink too much at the tavern because they have to drive home.

But if you don't have to drive, you're going to have a little more time to spend having a drink or a dinner an afterdinner drink or something.

>> Can you Are you breaking the law if you like you're in the driverless car and you just in the passenger side just getting hammered yourself?

I mean, is that a concern?

>> I I don't think I don't know.

I don't think I think it's not right.

Open beverage in a car.

Yeah, we have open containers.

>> Don't you have to have a license to operate a vehicle in the state of Missouri?

And if >> at the moment, Charlie, >> yeah.

So, I I'm sure I'm sure it's going to get passed because the company's owned by Alphabet, which owns Google.

They're going to pay off everybody, every lobbyist.

>> Well, I'm sure that requirement to have a license is a requirement for a human being to have a license if there's no human being.

But maybe where is the requirement?

>> Maybe if the car were to stop and you had to drive the car manually, you know, that's I don't know.

Oh, I'm asking these questions and they send out a >> I just I just know I can't wait for it because then people go, "Well, it's unsafe."

Have you been out on the roads where humans are driving?

>> I can't imagine it's in fact the preliminary studies show there's actually less incidents than there are with people because now people are so The one thing I can say about the driverless car, that's one less driver not on their cell phone while they're driving.

So, I mean, unless you're going to stop that, don't tell me Whimo's dangerous when I see people going down the highway just texting out their eye makeup.

I've never I can't remember the last time I heard Eric Schmidt this enthusiastic about anything.

>> Well, that's because Alphabet is a very powerful Silicon Valley company.

And uh yeah, >> have you ever rented a car that had all of the like it basically drives itself.

You're like it'll judge when to break and all that.

It was interesting because I've had one one time and I when you're on cruise control and you're driving down the highway, you really do not have to do anything except sit there.

>> I I was in a Tesla where they did that.

>> Yeah.

And it it was I felt safe, but I was I felt in control even though I was just sitting there, you know.

>> Bill Mlen, I want to ask you about CityFest.

That's the big of uh gathering every year that was just cancelled by organizers after uh last year.

We talked about this on the program.

17 kids got arrested um on the like the last night.

There was some gunfire.

Uh but this is not the first Metro East festival get cancelled.

Something called Wingfest has been cancelled.

Nickfest has been cancelled.

We once had a cancellation, although it came back of uh 13 Carnival.

Maybe it's different, but Evolution Festival, the music festival in Forest Park, is now on hiatus according to its organizers.

They hope to come back, but uh it's kind of disappointing that this area can't seem to run festivals that have, you know, cotton candy and rides and vendors and all those fun summer things.

>> Yeah.

Well, I and I think evolution of Forest Park is a different animal than these other festivals that are being cancelled because of problems.

And I I bet one thing if se 17 kids arrested last year at the uh of festival, I bet there were no consequences.

I bet none of those kids or their parents suffered any kind of consequences for their behavior.

And and that's why why this happens.

I mean the idea that uh I mean we're kind of giving into the gangster culture on this and these kids come and you know they can on the social media everybody meet at the festival and as as long as we're going to have to say okay well we we'll back off.

Well, and and Charlie, I think speaks for a lot of people when you said, "Yeah, there was some gun some gunfire erupted."

That's we're so used to that now that, you know, but but but families who are that's their target audience.

When they hear gunfire erupts, that's it.

Game game over.

And and what they would have to invest in a security team would make it I mean, it would be prohibitive and and make the festival pointless.

>> That's kind of where I disagree.

like you want if you want to do it, you wanted to be safe, you could do it.

You just say like this is what it cost to put on the you know the thing residents of our town and we'll find the money to do it.

But I think it's very important that all right we've had trouble at CityFest no fallen.

Okay.

And this is what this I said like now if I were the mayor or city council I'd say you know what we're going to have cityfest next year and it's going to be safe and we're going to meet any troublemaker eye to eye and take care of that problem right there on the spot and tell the world that hey we're it's different now and if mom or dad or somebody's got a felt like they kid got turned out for the wrong reason whatever well you'll just have to take it up with the police department and city hall.

Don't give into this crap.

I just I it's what I don't understand.

Bill, you're right.

I mean, just like no.

Uh-uh.

Troublemakers been around forever.

Why are they having so much say on our lives right now?

>> Gunfire.

>> Well, I agree with you.

I think that they should beef up the security team.

Maybe put up some fencing.

>> I That's fencing is important, too.

>> You know, and if if you have to have people walking through some sort of metal detector, absolutely, that's fine.

Definitely.

Well, but those are the things that everybody a few years ago was decrying as we're turning into a police.

So, now you got to win.

were that when people were saying defund the police that was part and parcel with it.

>> I don't even want to get into that argument because people were saying that nobody even believed it ever happened and that's just a fallacy Joe.

>> No, it's not.

No, it's absolutely what police department got then let's police department.

>> Let's put up a bunch of fences over let's run them through metal detectors.

Let's make sure everybody actually let's search everybody >> before you get in there.

Let's make it safe.

And you're telling me you don't think there's going to be a single complaint about that?

>> Who cares?

Who cares if there's a complaint?

>> Apparently, governments do because they backed off prosecuting criminals.

They backed off, as Bill said, having any consequences to things where people were brought in and then released.

>> Well, that brought in and released.

>> Okay.

But now that's been going on.

It didn't have anything to do with festivals or defund the police, whatever.

That's been going on a long time because if you're a juvenile, there's not much you can do with anyway.

So, I mean, that's a problem that needs to be dealt with, but please don't put it on that defund the police.

That's that's there were people the defund the police.

>> I think I agree with Alvin.

I think we can come up with some creative solutions because you don't want families not to have those, you know, memories of going walking down the runway.

>> Well, so you want it both ways.

You want it safe, but with not with a police presence.

>> No, no, no.

I I I like the I like I like the police presence a lot.

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

Uh, always and everywhere.

And then uh you the metal detectors and the fencing and uh maybe uh send a committee over to WashU and say how did you maintain 13 carnival because you didn't close up forever you continued it you know and I I know that it's difficult for mothers and fathers to you know run these things but or city fathers as they >> the fault is not the city fathers and mothers of fallen the fault is the people who caused the problems right it's that >> and by the way I think that also I think I've read this >> I think they dealt with it >> yeah they're not going to have Yeah, but but I don't think you should give in.

I I really don't.

And I've heard this that if you simply have police cars with the >> lights on, that's like a detriment.

You know what you need?

You need classical music >> playing home.

>> How about we just put some National Guard people out there with a humvey?

>> Well, I wouldn't be a Now you're different.

>> Yeah.

Yeah.

>> Regular police will do.

>> Talk about it.

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It's going to be a good one as it always is.

Alvin, it's a historic week in Missouri because uh after voters last year by 50.1% 50.1% approved sports betting in the state of Missouri and it started this Monday.

And so now people who otherwise can't afford the rent, they don't buy uh they don't buy insurance on their homes, they can't buy milk without federal support.

>> Now they can bet on sports.

Aren't you happy?

Well, I mean, the only difference was you don't have to go to Kansas or Illinois because they were right there.

All right.

I'm I don't have a problem with it.

I don't use the apps and I think that is kind of dangerous the on your telephone gambling.

If you go to the site, make a bet.

I think that's I I feel more comfortable with that.

What you can now do, which you cannot do before, it will generate some income for the state of Missouri.

Although I'm not saying that that's uh, you know, the be all and end all, but I I I really don't have a problem with it.

And I will add this that as much as you may not like DraftKings and FanDuel, they're pouring a lot of money into some businesses right now that might otherwise be failing i.e.

TV, radio, athletic teams.

So I mean the the day would come where if you wanted to, you know, save the daily newspaper and you said like, hey, look, we need to not be taken over by these entities, but have a lot of advertising in them and it would help people save their jobs.

So it was a constitutional amendment to support and save AM radio and newspapers and digital.

I I such a 20th century person, but I thought that bookies were sufficient.

I mean, you had to make a very slight effort to gamble.

You had to go either call the bookie or go to the bar and make a bet.

The idea that you can sit home on your phone and make a bet, that just sounds way too dangerous to Well, well, what what what happened when he didn't, you know, I'm not paying you, Bill.

I ain't got the money.

>> I never not paid.

>> Yeah, Hill came, right?

Oh, that kind of >> nonsense.

Good luck with that.

I I think that I mean, they're vices and it only took government what starting with prohibition to realize, dang, there's money in vices and we're letting it go other places.

So, instead of bookies, we now have politicians acting as bookies.

Mhm.

Well, the state is the book, >> but I the the app is to make the access to vices as easy as possible is never a good thing.

There is a solution though that people who don't have money to afford to gamble don't gamble.

And it sounds like it's simple, but you literally don't have to.

If you say, you know, I've got $40 to make it the next paycheck.

I can't be putting down a $50 bet on that.

>> It's an addiction, though.

We had we during during our era, the era of Johnny No thumbs, okay, where you placed your bet with Johnny no thumbs or whatever.

And there were consequences.

The younger generations, I think there's there's a there there have been some rewiring.

I mean, there there has been some rewiring and I agree with you what you're saying about the addictive nature of the app and the I I just think there's we we had a better grip on the consequences of coming home and all of your furniture is gone or your refrigerator, which happened to a friend of mine.

Your refrigerator's gone.

Her husband had a gambling problem.

today.

I think that because their brains are wired differently than ours, I think that addictive level, I think we are going to see some really heartbreaking sol in the in the >> old days for pornography where you had to go to the store and then the back room paper.

But people just thought, I'm not going to do that.

Now you just get on your computer.

I mean, we make we make a lot of things too easy that shouldn't be so easy.

>> Plus, there are consequences like uh Jaylen Porter, the guy didn't have much money, so he told his buddies, "Bet on me that I'm not going to do well and they faked it."

>> Wait a minute.

He didn't have much money making $15 million.

>> I don't know what the deal was, but the point is, was this the poor guy in the NBA?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

He's now banned from the NBA for life.

He's going to get banned from baseball for the same thing.

>> His brother Michael says, "You know, it's tough because you have friends who are going to be putting pressure on you to, hey, to do things that are illegal."

That's what I said.

Well, it would be easier to get if you're an NBA player, be easy to give your friends a couple thousand dollars.

I would suggest any professional athlete who can't handle that problem needs to quit and go get a job.

>> If you can't handle the pressure of a family member or a friend, hey, I need a little help.

But you can handle the pressure of a performance on Exactly.

Yeah.

I hit I hit a shot that won game seven.

I can't tell my friend get to heck.

You know, also I will say Elvin Brett Hall at is one of those spokespeople and he was quoted as saying, "Oh, this will be great for >> education."

>> Education in the state of Missouri.

I remind everybody seen that movie.

>> They are first paying off those who administer the program and then they're going to pay money for the gambling debts.

>> Yeah.

Or the gambling problem gamblers and then the money goes to educ and now you >> and and the tax is only 10%.

>> Okay.

I you and I talked to an expert who said the average% right all right now another one who was at the draft case Isaac Bruce >> now remember what we used to call Isaac the raite >> the ravy's up there with the gabler folks I'm like hey look that to me I don't have a problem with it but I'm just saying that it's everywhere >> okay okay um Joe I want to ask you about a couple of senators from the state of Missouri Josh Hawley and Eric Schmidt after tragically on November mber 26, an Afghan immigrant shot and killed a National Guard member and wounded another one.

This was in Washington DC.

And now they want immigrants supervetted, more vetted than they currently are.

Aren't they unfairly tainting immigrants based on the action of just one?

The bill specifically would be targeting Afghani immigrants who came to the country after the fall of Kabool after the evacuation.

So this this is not every immigrant who comes to the United States.

This his bill the bill that he just introduced which he had introduced in 2022 a similar bill that said these should be more vetted because when Kabul fell the United States basically just opened the doors and said anybody in Afghanistan can come in and a lot of those were not vetted.

>> I don't believe that's true at all.

In fact, uh, many magazines like The Atlantic pointed out how difficult it was for Friends of the United States in Afghanistan to get out of that country and into ours.

So, I I reject what these senators are saying.

>> Well, I mean, we've done this.

I mean, uh, Vietnam now then the thing with Cuba and, you know, they let everybody out of prison, they came over.

Uh, so I mean, this is it.

It happens in the United States.

Now, if you want to go back and vet these people that are now in the United States, but they've been here 20 years, I mean, I don't know what you're going to find.

I don't know.

I I This is Look, we got problems over here, so look over here.

That's what Holly and Schmid are doing.

They're like, "Hey, let's use this politically to, you know, keep people's minds off of things aren't going so well for our party right now."

>> Well, when you have this the fellow who is charged with these crimes, who seems clearly did it.

I mean, he worked for that Operation Zero or whatever it was, a CIA unit thing.

And if you can't help the people who served with you in combat positions, you can't say you we'll come in and give you some kind of vetting, but you you have to be able to help the people who helped you.

>> And I understand in wartime, I mean, obviously, I think, you know, pe rules are going to be stretched, border, you know, uh things are going to be pushed, but but I want everybody to be vetted.

I mean, I I do.

Well, I I think that they are I don't I don't think that's true.

You You're saying that the government has a 100% success rate on vetting all immigrants who have been I can't believe this.

I think I do not believe for some reason Republicans don't like immigrants.

They're they're putting a $100,000 visa fee on the researchers at Wu.

They're telling immigrants or visitors from other countries, your bill for entering our national parks is going to be 250 bucks.

I mean, it's just a pattern of anti You're you're right.

And I don't really even think they really are into all this vetting of all Afghans.

They just want to talk about vetting of all Afghans because that's a >> I I think it ignores the belief that some people believe that the immigration policies of the United States need to be stricter.

Okay.

>> And Democrats seem to oppose that.

>> Thank you, Joe.

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