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>>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.

GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

LOTS TO TALK ABOUT OUR FURTHER ADO.

LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS.

WENDY WIESE, COHOST OF THE WENDY AND JENNIFER SHOW.

>> BILL MCCLELLAN AND ST L TODAY.COM.

>> RAY HARTMANN FROM ROSS STORY AND THE RIVER FRONT TIMES.

AND FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN WHERE HE EDITS THE NEWS AND WRITES THE BEST SPORTS COLUMN, MR. ALVIN REID.

>>> A PROGRAMMING NOTE; THE SECOND HALF OF THE SHOW, NEXT UP, WHERE WE INTERVIEW PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, SHAWN HAYES, HE WENT TO PRISON FOR FRAUD.

HE IS OUT OF PRISON.

I HOPE YOU STAY TUNED FOR THAT.

>> WENDY, I WANT TO REQUEST YOU ABOUT THE STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS AND HE SOUNDED MORE LIKE A DEMOCRAT.

SPENDING MONEY LEFT AND RIGHT.

>> HE DID.

>> ONE THING HE WAS LOOKING FOR IS WIDENING OF HIGHWAY 70 BETWEEN KANSAS.

THE PRICE TAG IS ASTOUNDING, 850 MILLION BUCKS.

DO YOU THINK IT IS SUCH A CONDITION THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND ALMOST A BILLION DOLLARS TO REPAIR IT?

>> I GO.

NATURALLY, THAT'S SELF-SERVING.

[LAUGHTER.]

.

MY FELLOW CITIZENS ARE FINE WITH THAT.

SERIOUSLY, I THINK IT IS THE MAIN HIGHWAY FROM THE EAST COAST TO THE WEST COAST.

IT IS WHERE MANY, MANY PEOPLE, THEY SORT OF FORMULATE THEIR OPINION OF THE STATE OF MISSOURI.

AND IT IS PRETTY BAD.

I MEAN, IT IS PRETTY BAD THE SLOW-DOWNS AND HOW THEY HAVE INCREASED OVER TIME, AND IT IS NOT CONSTRUCTION, THERE ARE ACCIDENTS, FENDER BENDERS AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN ON I70.

IT HAS HAD A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR ECONOMY, HE SAYS.

WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN TERMS OF THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION, IT IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO SKYROCKET AND IT IS GOING TO GET BIGGER AND BIGGER TO DO IT.

DO IT NOW.

BITE THE BULLET.

AND BE HAPPY WE DID IT NOW.

>> ON SOCIAL MEDIA, YOUNG PEOPLE, MORE AND MORE, I HOPE IT IS TONGUE AND CHEEK, WE ARE KNOWN AS THE STATE OF MISERY.

IF THEY ARE STUCK ON HIGHWAY 70 TRAVELING THROUGH THE STATE, IT ADDS TO THAT.

>> I GO TO VISIT MY BEAUTIFUL COLLEGE CAMPUS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT!

>> A DRIVE FOR A LONG TIME.

IF I CAN AVERAGE 10 MILES ABOVE THE SPEED LIMIT BETWEEN HERE AND KANSAS CITY, THEY DON'T NEED TO WIDEN THE HIGHWAY.

>> I HEAR YOU.

>> I STOP AND GET MY LOG ROLLS WITHOUT DIFFICULTY.

[LAUGHTER.]

I THINK THIS IS A POLITICAL FAVOR FOR PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HIM.

>> LET ME GO 21ST CENTURY ON YOU.

HOW ABOUT THE HYPER LOOP WE TALK ABOUT?

WE CAN BE IN KANSAS CITY IN 20 MINUTES.

>> IT IS A BILLION DOLLAR A YARD I LOVE THE IDEA.

>> MORGANTOWN, WEST VIRGINIA, WE LOST OUT.

WE ARE SUBSIDIZING AMTRAK.

>> IT IS LONGER THAN HIGHWAY 70.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MANY STOPS.

>> -- >> THE FREIGHT TRAIN.

>> THE TRAIN GETS IN THE WAY IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SHARE THE TRACKS.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

>> RAY, I WANT TO BRING YOU INTO THE CONVERSATION, YOU HAVE WRITTEN WELL OVER THE NEED FOR TOLLS ON HIGHWAY 8 70.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT.

>> HOW ABOUT TOLLS TO PAY FOR THIS?

>> IT IS THE CLASSIC EXAMPLE THAT NEEDS A USER TAX.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE NOTION.

I CAN'T CONDONE THIS DRIVING OVER THE SPEED LIMIT.

>> WE ARE STRICT LAW AND ORDER FOLKS.

[LAUGHTER.]

.

>> I CAN'T CONDONE MYSELF FOR THAT.

I MEAN -- I THINK THAT IT IS A, IT IS THE ULTIMATE EXAMPLE WHERE WE NEED A USER TAX.

AND THE GOVERNOR IS REFERRING TO THE ECONOMY, WHETHER IT IS GAS TAXES, TOLLS, FOR SOME REASON IN MISSOURI, WE THINK THAT PEOPLE LIKE US BETTER BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY AND THE PEOPLE HE IS TALKING ABOUT IN OUR ECONOMY ARE, ARE COLLECTIVELY, WREAKING HAVOC ON THOSE HIGHWAYS.

WE SHOULD EXPECT THE USERS TO PAY FOR IT.

IT IS FINE WIDENING IT.

>> FAIR ENOUGH -- >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD A TOLLING AUTHORITY.

WE HAD IT.

WE SHOULD HAVE USED IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> BILL, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A STORY ABOUT MIKE FIZZ GERALD.

WE DON'T BROACH A TOPIC UNLESS WE HAVE A TOPIC.

IT LOOKS AT THE HAZEL WOOD SCHOOLS AND THEY HAVE GONE TO VIRTUAL LEARNS BECAUSE OF NO TEACHERS.

AND NOW THEY ARE THINKING IT IS A PLAN B, INSTEAD OF MAYBE HAVING THE TEACHERS IN KANSAS OR IN TEXAS AS THEY ARE NOW FOR HAZEL WOOD WITH THE REMOTE LEARNING, THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT TEACHERS COMING IN FROM PUERTO RICO.

THEY WILL TEACH IN THIS NORTH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> IT IS A GREAT STORY.

WHAT A NICE JOB THAT YOUNG GUY DID.

THE VIRTUAL LEARNING DOESN'T WORK.

I THINK BRINGING IN TEACHERS FROM PUERTO RICO IS A GREAT IDEA.

WE HAVE DONE THAT WITH NURSES AND OTHER JOBS.

WE HAVE JOBS WE CAN'T FILL.

IF THERE ARE PEOPLE IN PUERTO RICO WILLING TO WORK, THAT'S A FAR BETTER SOLUTION.

BUT, IT MIGHT BE MORE DIFFICULT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL GET ENOUGH OF THEM.

>> FIRST OF ALL, DITTO ABOUT THE STORY.

I LIKE DO REMIND -- TO REMIND PEOPLE, DON'T GIVE ME THE CREDIT.

I WRITE THE COLUMN.

IT MAKES ME PROUD TO DO THAT.

I THINK -- I'M NOT SURE THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.

I MEAN, MY FIRST REACTION I DON'T TELL LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHAT TO DO.

WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO IS FINE.

>> IT IS UP TO JEFF CITY, RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

>> JOKING.

>> THERE ARE PROGRAMS WHERE THERE ARE GROW YOUR OWN WHERE TEACHERS TRY TO GET ASSISTANCE AND BRING PEOPLE ALONG.

YOU NEED TO PAY PEOPLE MORE.

THAT'S ONE SOLUTION.

THAT'S A BETTER WAY TO GO WHERE YOU DEVELOP YOUR OWN FOLKS.

I DON'T -- YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WILL WORK, I GUESS.

>> WHEN YOU CAN'T GET ENOUGH TEACHERS, YOU HAVE TO DO STUFF.

>> WE HAD A CALLER TO MCGRAW SHOW TODAY SHE WAS SAYING SHE WAS IN THE TEACHING PROFESSION FOR FOUR DECADES.

SHE BELIEVES IT THAT SO MANY DISTRICTS TODAY TO HIRE MORE AND MORE MIDDLE MANAGERS.

THEY THINK THAT HAS TAKEN SO MUCH AWAY FROM FUNDS THE CLASSROOMS AND THE KIDS IN IT AND THE TEACHERS WHO TEACH.

>> I HAVE TO IRREFUTABLE THAT.

IRREFUTABLE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THEY HAVE.

I WISH ZOOM LEARNING JUST WASN'T THERE.

I WISH WE WERE NOT IN A SITUATION WE HAD TO DO IT.

THE REASON I CAN SEE DOING IT, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MATH TEACHERS, THE WHOLE THING WHERE SOMEBODY ELSE TEACHES THE CLASS, BUT SHE IS OR HE IS NOT A MATH TEACHER.

THEY ARE LEARNING THE LESSON AS THEY ARE PREPARING TO GIVE IT TO THE STUDENT.

I WOULD RATHER A MATH TEACHER TEACH THE CLASS FROM ARIZONA THAN A SOCIAL STUDY TEACHER TEACHING THAT CLASS.

>> WHAT ABOUT TEMPORARY WORKERS MAKING SURE THE KIDS ARE NOT ON THEIR PHONE?

>> I'M FINE WITH THAT.

>> I'M FINE WITH PUERTO RICO.

>> THEY DID A GREAT STORY ABOUT THE PHILIPPINES TEACHERS COMING IN.

AND SOME THINGS ARE NOT LEARNING AND -- HAZELWOOD IS GETTING RIPPED OFF AND THIS SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE ISSUE FOR THE STATE.

>> AND THEY HAVE HAD A BAD RECORD.

ARE THERE COMPANIES THAT CAN DO WELL?

>> WE HAVE TO MOVE ALONG.

>> VIRTUAL DOESN'T WORK.

>> WE ARE GOING TO TWO STORIES FROM THE RF T IN A ROW.

IT IS YOUR WEEK, RAY.

>> IT IS A GOOD ONE.

>> THE LARGEST OFFICE BUILDS, 1.4 MILLION SQUARE FEET AND IT WAS PURCHASED FOR 4 MILLION DOLLARS.

THERE ARE HOMES IN WILSON WOODS THAT ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THIS.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR HISTORIC TAX CREDITS AND TAX ABATEMENTS.

YOU SAY FORGET ABOUT IT, AND NO SUBSIDIES.

THIS IS 906 CHESTNUT?

909?

>> 909.

>> FIRST OF ALL, IT IS A FULL CITY BLOCK.

FOR EVERY DIME OF SUBSIDY, WHATEVER THEY COME UP WITH, NOT VERY HISTORIC BUILDING.

THERE IS AN HISTORIC BUILDING THAT IS NOT GOING TO GET MONEY.

IT IS NOT AN INFINITE PIE.

WE CAN'T PUT MONEY IN THE LO LOSER.

IT IS A FAILED SKYSCRAPER.

IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HOTELS, BUILDINGS THEY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO WORK IN THE '80S, IT IS NOT WORKING FOR TODAY.

THE CRIME PROBLEM, THE LACK OF INTERNAL PARKING IN THAT BUILDING IS JUST A HUGE HURDLE TO OVERCOME.

I'M NOT GOING AGAINST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO DO IT.

GREATER ST. LOUIS TALK ABOUT THE PATIENT CAPITAL FUND, RAM'S MONEY.

WHATEVER YOU CAN DO.

IT IS NOT CHEAP TO IMPLODE THAT BUILDING.

IF YOU IMPLODE THAT BUILDING, IT IS FOR THE PURPOSE TO PUT SOMETHING CURRENT, SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK.

IT IS A FULL CITY BLOCK.

>> WHO IS GOING TO DO ISN'T THAT.

>> WHAT EXACTLY WHAT YOU PUT?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

>> I CAN'T IMAGINE -- >> WHATEVER CREATIVE -- I THINK THE PEOPLE INTERVIEWED TODAY -- THESE FOLKS ARE TRYING TO BRING GREAT CREATIVE ENERGY.

LET THEM HAVE THE GREAT CREATIVE ENERGY WITHOUT STARTING WITH A 43-STORY BUILDING THAT IS TOO BIG AND UNREALISTIC FOR 2023.

>> IF I HAD MONEY, THE FIRST THING I WOULD LOOK AT, COULD I PUT PARKING IN THE BUILDINGS, FLOORS 2-6.

THAT MAY BE IMPOSSIBLE THE WAY THE BUILDING.

IT MAY BE IMPOSSIBLE.

IF YOU COULD DO THAT, THAT IS A HURDLE TO MAKE A BUILDING FOR VIABLE.

I THINK IT SOLD FOR WHAT?

300 MILLION DOLLARS.

>> OH, IT WAS -- >> AND SOMEBODY COMES ALONG AND BUYS IT FOR 4 MILLION DOLLARS.

THE PARTY THAT BOUGHT IT SHOULD BE ON YOUR OWN.

>> TOTALLY AGREE.

TOMORROWLY AGREE.

>> YOU BLOW IT UP.

YOU STILL OWN THE LAND AND YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO.

OR YOU FIX IT UP.

EITHER, YOU SAVE THE MONEY ON THE FRONT END.

>> I WISH I HAD THE MONEY TO BUY IT.

>> THEY ARE GOING TO WALK AWAY.

>> FOLKS FROM NEW YORK WANTED TO GET IT IN ON THE REGISTER.

>> THAT IS A SCAM.

>> WHY?

IT IS WHAT THEY DID.

IT IS NOT A SCAM.

>> IT WAS BUILT IN '85.

>> 1985.

>> IT IS IMPROPER.

IT IS NOT A SCAM.

>> IT IS A SCAM!

>> -- >> THIS BUILDING HAS GOT TO BE CLASS A.

IT IS A RELATIVELY NEW BUILDING THAT AT&T DEVELOPED AND THE PROBLEM IS NO ONE WANTS TO BE IN ST. LOUIS DOWNTOWN.

YOU HAVE THE RAILWAY EXCHANGE AND THE JEFFERSON ARMS.

>> YOU HAVE -- >> IT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE GARDEN.

IT IS A GREAT LOCATION.

>> IF IT IS SUCH A GREAT LOCATION AND CLASS A, WHY IN THE 6 YEARS --?

NO ONE WANTS TO BE DOWNTOWN.

>> WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO COME BACK?

>> MAYBE THEY WILL SOLVE CRIME AND PEOPLE WILL WANT TO COME BACK.

>> YOU MAKE IT ANOTHER COURTHOUSE.

>> OKAY.

>> ALVIN REID, IT IS NOT A PLAN YET.

IDEAS FLOATED, WHICH IS FACING A 41 MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET HOLE.

HOW TO FIX THAT.

YOU CAN PUT A 3 PERCENT TAX ON MARIJUANA SALES.

THEY START NEXT MONTH, I THINK.

AND THERE'S AN INTERNET TAX THAT OUT OF STATERS DON'T PAY FOR GOODS PURCHASED OVER THE INTERNET PURCHASED.

I HOPE PEOPLE BUY MY BOOK ON ONLI ONLINE.

IF YOU LIVE OUTSIDE OF STATE, YOU DON'T.

DO YOU LIKE THE IDEAS?

>> I DO.

IN MY MIND, I STILL CONSIDER THE INTERNET A NEW THING, IT WAS NEW TO ALL OF US.

I WAS IN MY 20S.

TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

I THINK PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY SALES TAX IF YOU GO OVER THE INTERNET.

NOW I UNDERSTAND.

I AM FROM MISSOURI AND I HAVE TO PAY THE TAX.

NO.

WE NEED TO FIX THAT.

AND TWO, HEY, I'M MR. GAMBLING, LEGALIZE THIS.

-- >> VIDEO GAMES.

>> I DIDN'T SAY THEY SHOULDN'T BE HEAVILY TAXED.

YES, ST. LOUIS COUNTY MAY WANT TO CONSIDER HIGHER THAN 3 PERCENT.

PEOPLE WILL PAY IT.

>> WE HAVE NOT AUDITED ST. LOUIS COUNTY.

WE HAVE HAD AUDITORS WHO DON'T AUDIT.

WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT ON THE PROGRAM.

SHOULDN'T AN ACCOUNTANT GO THROUGH THE AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY AND FIND OUT WHERE THERE ARE WASTES AND ISSUES BEFORE WE RAISE TAXES?

>> DIDN'T NICOLE GALLOWAY AUDIT THE COUNTY WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS?

>> THEY RELEASED THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT ON NEW YEAR'S EVE AT 2 IN THE MORNING SO NO ONE CARES.

>> IT IS THE EASIEST THING IN THE WORLD TO ARGUE INSTEAD OF TAXES, LET'S GET GOVERNMENT INEFFICIENT CY UNDER CONTROL.

>> HOW DO YOU KNOW?

>> WE MAKE THE ARGUMENTED ALL OF THE TIME -- ARGUMENT ALL OF THE TIME, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE GOVERNMENT AND WE CAN'T FIND THE ISSUES.

>> TONY WEAVER IS GOING TO THE HOTEL -- >> -- >> HOW MANY GUYS LIKE THAT ARE ON THE PAYROLL THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT?

>> I'M NO FAN OF THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.

I BELIEVE THE SET OF ALL GOVERNMENTS IN AMERICA AT ALL LEVELS THAT HAVE NO, THAT ARE EFFICIENT AND NO EFFICIENCIES WILL BE ZERO.

AND GOVERNMENTS HAVE NO EFFICIENCIES.

>> THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS.

FOR NOW.

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF TONY WEAVERS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THERE'S NO REASON TO BE THAT IT IS MORE OR LESS EFFICIENT.

YES, THEY SHOULD BE AUDIT.

YOU CAN'T GO FOR MORE REVENUES.

>> OH, YOU DO.

I HAVEN'T HEARD YOU -- >> WHAT TAX INCREASE IF YOU CAMPAIGNED AGAINST?

>> THE ZOO.

>> I STAND CORRECTED, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

>> YOU COULD REPEAL THAT ONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED IT.

AS FAR AS THE I THINK THAT THE IDEA OF THE ABSOLUTELY THE ONLINE SALES.

>> AND CORPORATIONS ARE THE SAME AS GOVERNMENT.

THE BIG BOSSES ARE SAYING WE ARE GOING TO CUT THE FAT.

WELL, YOU KNOW, YEAH, YOU CAN GO AROUND AND SAY THERE'S A TONY WEAVER OVER THERE.

OVERALL, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FAT TO CUT AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

>> THOSE BOSSES ARE MAKING 10 THOUSAND -- >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE AUDITOR.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY.

>> WE GO THROUGH THE COUNTY, EVERY DEPARTMENT NEEDS A NEW COPY MACHINE BECAUSE IT IS MAKING NOISE FROM 1989.

NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING.

[LAUGHTER.]

>> AND THE NEW HOUSE SPEAKER IS DEAN, HE IS A REPUBLICAN OUT OF THE ST. LOUIS AREA.

AND HE IS GOING TO FILE LEGISLATION WHICH WOULD ESTABLISH A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR TO PROSECUTE VIOLENT CRIMES LIKE CARJACKING IN ONE COUNTY.

THAT'S ST. LOUIS.

HE DOESN'T THINK THAT KIM GARDNER IS DOING THAT.

THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT A WOMAN WHO SHOT AT POLICE AND THEN RELEASED FROM JAIL.

AND LATER, TWO OR THREE DAYS LATER, CHARGES WERE THEN FILED.

PEOPLE WONDER ABOUT HER PERFORMANCE.

>> I DON'T WONDER ABOUT HER PERMISSION.

I KNOW SHE IS NOT PERFORMING.

IT IS A BAD OFFICE.

WE WILL HAVE A NEW PROSECUTE PROSECUTOR THAT WILL HANDLE THE NEW CASES.

BECAUSE WE HAVE A CIRCUIT ATTORNEY THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE DOING HER JOB WELL.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN A LEGISLATOR WILL COME IN AND SAY WE WILL GET A NEW PROSECUTOR.

THIS IS AN ELECTED OFFICE.

AND NOW WE HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH KIM GARDNER.

>> ONE OF THE REPUBLICANS ORTHODOX IN JEFF CITY IS A VERY PATRIOTIZING AND DISMISSIVE ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS AT LARGE.

KIM GARDNER IS THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT, IF YOU WILL.

I GET THAT.

IT IS NOT JUST KIM GARDNER.

IT IS JUST -- IT IS WRONG ON EVERY LEVEL FOR THE REASONS YOU STATED.

AND IT IS HYPOCRITE WHEN YOU CONSIDER HOW DISFUNCTION OUR GOVERNMENT IS.

>> DO YOU GET THE RIGHT TO PERFORM THROUGH THE STATE GOVERNMENT.

IS THERE A LEGAL REMEDY THROUGH THE STATE GOVERNMENT?

>> I JUST DON'T -- >> AND THEY TOOK AWAY THE POLICE BOARD IN THE CITY.

THIS MAY BE POSSIBLE.

>> WE ARE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATIONS ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL ABOUT SANTOS.

THERE HAS TO BE THE MECHANISM TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT OR RIGHT A WRONG FOR -- >> IF THE VOTERS FEEL THAT KIM GARDNER IS DOING A FINE JOB, THEN THERE'S NOTHING ANYBODY CAN DO.

THE CITY GOVERNORS THEMSELVES.

>> AND TAKING THE POWER WYOMING FROM THE GOVERNOR.

>> WE DON'T NEED STATE AROUND THE STATE -- >> WE HAVE A CRIME ISSUE THAT IS OFF THE START.

>> NO, WE DON'T!

.

>> YOU ARE NAIVE IF YOU THINK THAT THEY GIVE A RAT ABOUT THE CITIZENS.

>> THEY WEAPONIZE -- >> LET US DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE GUN PROBLEM.

NO!

.

THE POLICE WANT US TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE GUN PROBLEM.

NO!

.

IT IS ALL KIM'S FAULT.

IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH KIM GARDNER.

IT IS PURE HATE COMING OUT OF JEFFERSON CITY.

>> WE HAVE TWO MINUTES TO GO.

>> THE LAST TOPIC, ALVIN.

THERE WAS A GUY AT THE POLICE STATION WHO SHOT SOMEONE TRYING TO BREAK INTO HIS CAR.

THE SHOOTER WAS LATER TAKEN INTO CUSTODY IN ST. CHARLES.

HE WITH GOING TO BE CHARGED WITH FIRST DEGREE MURDER.

THAT'S WHAT AUTHORITIES SAY.

HE SHOT A GUY STEALING HIS CAR.

SHOULD HE BE CHARGED WITH FIRST DEGREE MURDER?

>> YOU CAN'T KILL SOMEONE TRYING TO BREAK INTO YOUR CAR IF YOU ARE NOT IN THE CAR.

YOU CAN RUN IN AND THEN COME OUT.

BUT YOU CAN'T GUN THEM DOWN.

YOU ARE STEALING HIS HORSE AND THIS AIN'T DODGE CITY.

>> IF MY CHILD IS IN THAT CAR -- >> THERE WERE NO KIDS IN THE CAR.

>> BUT, I'M SAYING -- >> I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE.

>> THAT IS AN EXCEPTION?

YOUMAC WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE.

>> IF SOMEONE WANTS MONEY AND KNOCKS ON MY WINDOW REAL HARD, AND SHOOT THEM, I WOULD GET AWAY WITH IT.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> THE FELLOW WAS SHOT WAS RUNNING AWAY AT THE TIME HE WAS SHOT.

I THINK THE SHOOTER SHOULD BE CHARGED AND GIVE HIM PROBATION.

STICKING WITH THE FELONY ASSAULT CHARGE SO HE CAN'T GET A GUN.

>> I THINK PROBATION, IT IS NOT FIRST DEGREE MURDER.

I THINK IT IS A FELONY AND HE SHOULD BE PROSECUTED.

IT IS A GUN-RELATED FATALITIES.

>> THAT CONINCLUDES OUR PORTION.

YOU CALLED THE 9 LINE.

WE WOULD LISTEN TO THE COMMENT AT THIS TIME.

>> I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO A COMMENT THAT ALVIN MADE ABOUT THAT THE 500 DOLLARS AWARDED OR GIVEN TO THE 9000 PEOPLE DIDN'T MEET THE SAME IMPORTANCE AS THE FOOD FRAUD PROGRAM.

THE 9000 PEOPLE TIMES 500 DOLLARS IS 45 MILLION 50 -- 4 MILLION 500 DOLLARS.

>> WE WILL TELL YOU HOW TO CALL THE 9 LINE.

>> JACKETS ARE APPROPRIATE ATTIRE FOR LEGISLATORS AND WOMEN, PEOPLE OF A CERTAIN AGE MAY NEED TO SHED THEM IF THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM MENOPAUSE.

THAT IS FROM ANA.

>>> AND WE HEARD FROM SCOTT, THREATENING THE KILLING OF BLACK PEOPLE IS NOT FREE SPEECH.

IT IS RACISM.

THANK YOU.

>> THE MISSOURI LEGISLATORS VOTED AGAINST THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

THANK YOU.

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