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Joe Holleman I'm going to start with you uh it's it's kind of sad I think when any media outlet closes down uh certainly when the rft uh shut it stores learned recently that Jim Salter of AP retired at the age of 65 and now there's no Associated Press Bureau and it was announced this week that KDHX the alternative radio station that a lot of people in St Louis have enjoyed for years and years will no longer have live programming again no live programming there's going to run reruns right uh so people I don't know what people are thinking about right now but there has been some consternation between the rank and file and management for about 2 years what's your opinion uh my opinion is is that honestly it's been years since I've listened to KDHX.

I think the the landscape has changed when it comes to music radio so much that I am sort of surprised that music radio exist to the extent that it does I also think that there's been problems at KDHX for a whole lot longer than just two years it's kind of been an up and down of problems going on there and one of the problems was was how do you change uh what a station is doing to respond to a marketplace when the people who are there are all volunteers and then those volunteers end up telling people not to give money to keep the station going and then when the station quits going you also complain about that I mean to me it seems like a what once was a good idea that is run as course and I know I'm in the minority on that I absolutely do okay yes so let me say you're are in the minority on that with with me you know this was Community radio which is a a very Niche thing and it's music that you don't hear on the more commercial stations and it was really run by a bunch of hippies who that are now old hippies and I thought that in in this big Market it had a comfortable little niche and people liked it and the uh new people running it uh decided that they wanted to be in in complete control of it and they fired some of the volunteers which is seems like a contradictory idea that but and other people said well this is belong to the community you can't do this and they seem to be the uh management seems to be willing to blow the whole thing up rather than admit error right or take the L all right you lost okay now granted the DJ said don't give money okay that was their approach approach to it the reason that they're playing repeats all the night time is because as they said they don't have the money you don't have the money because of what happened just admit that you made a mistake and whatever it was it was ours and it was unique and I liked it I've lived all over the country I never heard anything like it there was a couple shows that I I would listen to pretty regularly and I will say this that whole thing where some very very kind and and genuine people got accused of racism that's where management lost me completely because like I said I don't know all of them who were volunteers but I know a couple and that was so unfair and that was so out of line that I don't want to feel like good I'm glad this is happening to you but I think ultimately the old KDHX will return in some fashion well it's like the and if it if it returns online you know is that no that's not that's not the same so you think that they will not sell the signal I hope not yeah but it's it's like it ought not to be Theirs to sell when you're talking about the management well it's like one of the it sounds like one of those little and I other than DJ's involvement I really I I don't know that much about it only that obviously people are very very passionate about it and you don't have that but uh today in in I think in the media landscape I think we would all agree that you you know you've got you've got major players fighting for their survival you know that the little the little niche you know those little uh stations there I think they're on borrowed time unless somebody has a lot of money you know scrolled away that's right ask Not For Whom the Bell Tolls because it's going on all over the place and you know like the the corporate parent that runs KMOX and five other stations has is just coming out of bankruptcy right now uh but and you go around the nation you don't see people listening to radios they're all on their phones so things are changing but I think that the the personalities on both sides deserve some blame AB because they should have sat down with some respected member of the community a Richard Mark Joe Edwards someone and sit down and say okay we're going to work this out even though we don't love each other for the good of this radio station that's a community treasure we have to make this work you mean like the transform act down at City Hall yeah maybe they could get the board of alderman to help him out I think one thing that I think that both sides or at least certainly the DJs not recognizing and I agree with Bill's point in the early days it was the only place where if I wanted to listen to acoustic delta blues or I wanted to listen to reggae music that was the only place to do it yeah now you can go online and find every reggae song every recorded and I can play them on my phone but but in my car but but but you don't find out who's playing Tuesday night at BB's or who's going to be performing at suard and that's you know the restaurant community and the bar industry if there is such a thing should be getting together and saying hey let's support KD cuz they told everybody where the concert were I think there's a lot of that going on in in Reverse where where uh like Parker's table a place that I I go to buy wine sometimes you know they're a sponsor and things have gotten so messed up that that they're no longer sponsoring KDHX there there's a lot of bars that are no longer contributing to KDHX just because it has lost that Community feel because you're emphasizing a negative you're not emphasizing you're not giving some people something to Rally around you're you're trying to hurt somebody else and that doesn't fly I agree and I got a solution call it KDHX a true American radio station good for you and Wendy it's not every day that you see a member of cardinal Nation uh criticize Cardinal Nation but Jim Edmonds uh is out as the play-by-play analyst uh on broadcast sports cast with uh skip Cary right right and as it turns out he went out uh you know swinging his elbows because he said that nobody in the organization cares and he he used the word chaos to describe what's going on I don't think he's I think he's Burning Bridges he says he doesn't want to come back to spring training or sign autographs what do you make of this I personally the first time I heard him and I know I don't know why he is so polarizing but he is really polarizing but the first time I heard him I thought who is that he mean he didn't exactly have what you would call a Carrie Buck voice for radio but I thought he was I thought he did a great job I really liked him on the air um I didn't listen all the time but I I was really impressed at the outset this reads and I don't know if he takes anybody's counsel doesn't sound like it but this kind of reads like a guy who's you know his his uh pants maybe are getting a little too tight and His Glory Days are behind him and nobody's listening to him and that's shame on the Cardinals if if Jim Edmonds sees something that your batters are doing or that your pitcher doing then I would want to sit down with Jim Edmonds but okay two minutes less than two minutes ago sorry no I I kind of I agree with you one I got a sense is like was this like you can't fire me I quit you know maybe maybe but about half of it I hear you Jim but half of it kind of came off whing to be I thought it came off very whiny then again you know I'm a cub fan I've never liked Jim Edwards I thought he was always kind of a hot dog out there and a couple years ago he criticized the Cub Christopher Morell who hit a home run and celebrated and you know that was Unbecoming and I thought Jimmy the Hot Dog Edwards is talking about something Unbecoming so yeah I I AG I agree with you about that Ed Edmonds was the worst guy to say it Morel so deserved to get called out for that hot dog that was way above and beyond anything but the point is and and I I will not Mi what I will miss about Jim Edmond I thought he was usually not prepared uh so am I going to miss him no I will give him a minimal amount of credit for being the only one who would sometimes criticize the way the Cardinals were playing and I have gotten tired of sports in general announcers because when you're paid by the team nobody's being honest anymore like in the old days when Harry Carey would do the old pop up they don't criticize their own team anymore and it's all Homer comment Edmunds did a little bit of criticism I will miss that but otherwise no what's Brad's last name the color commentator Thompson Thompson Thompson very good but I also like Jerry Roy who's getting up there in years but he's an excellent analyst if the Cardinals are looking for somebody and I'm available too what the heck uh hey hey Alvin Reed alongside skip carry that's it for this edition of last call we'll see you next week thanks for joining us bye-bye you talk some pandering