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Okay, I don't know about you, but man, these sheriff stories are starting to wear me out.

And um I I've said that if he if he resigns, I think some of this will go away.

Do you guys agree with me?

because the latest this week um just fiscal mismanagement and it pales in comparison to some of the other stuff he did.

But uh obviously I can't ask is it time for the sheriff to go because I think we all agree that it's time for the sheriff to go.

But this latest escapade isn't just piling on.

>> He's in the mil he he's in the Millicent Borishade car at the parade.

It's like >> right I know I I know I'm not but I'm saying byebye.

I mean it's time.

and Dave the David Mason who is by all accounts highly respected.

>> I'm not sure what's going on there, but I can't wait to read his account.

>> I just have a feeling that Sheriff Montgomery is not going to go away voluntarily.

>> I just have that feeling.

>> No.

And then after he gets a big payout, he's going to go somewhere and decompress.

>> I think >> Well, and we can do a national search for a new sheriff.

>> That's right.

You know, I think Judge Mason, David Mason, my theory is that he is like the people who during the first Trump administration.

They didn't really like Trump, but they were like, I'm a good Republican, and I want to safeguard our government.

I think he's in there going, "This is a train wreck, and I care about courtrooms having security and uh detainees able to get to where they're going to go, and so I'm going to step in and try to guide this young man."

And boy, has he taken on the like most thankless job in the history of St.

Louis jobs.

>> Yeah, I I agree.

And I also think he's a man of honor or else he probably would have said like I you know what I I've found something else to do.

>> Well, but but Bob Durker did that with Kim Gardner.

>> Yeah.

>> Yes.

Another another former judge and Bob stepped in as like to help.

>> All right.

So, yeah, that's a good point.

Excellent points all the way every now and then.

>> But I honestly I do think that I the deal that uh Judge Mason should make right now because he is was a judge, you know, he's serving as attorney now.

But I said like what he should do is like all right if I make a deal where you resign all this goes away then it'll be up to Sheriff Montgomery to take that deal.

And my advice to him is that he do that.

But you say that he >> I don't think so.

>> Yeah.

I don't think so.

>> So um you know there's a lot going on in St.

Louis County and some of it, you know, kind of makes me upset, but this one really does.

They're going to double the cost of adopting a like a dog or a cat.

It'll go from $40 to $80, which I think is a little bit cost prohibitive.

Also, you're I I think it guarantees that you're going to have a drop in animal adoptions.

Um Dennis Hancock, who was running for um county executive, is in favor of it.

I think this is going to hurt his campaign, and I think it should hurt his campaign because I think this is cruelty to animals.

I really do.

I think when you're looking at the sort of I I think when you're looking at the sort of budget issues that the county is facing there people are going to listen people are going to be more inclined to listen to him.

And I I thought that the point that he was trying to make about whether or not the county should be in the animal protective business in the first place was something that that's going to ring a lot of bells for people.

I mean, that's such a like cold hard thing, though.

Like, like if they get out of this business, there are not shelters that have extra shelter space.

Like, these are animals that are going to die.

And the $40 fee seems to be a fee that works for a lot of people.

Like, it's just high enough to stop somebody who'd want to get a dog or a cat for like bad purposes.

It just seems like this is a bad way to balance the budget because you're creating this whole problem downstream where again, a significant increase in euthanasia.

I I don't think it's the greatest idea since the light bulb, but I sort of agree with I think it's a good idea.

For one, they talked into the sponsor Rhard days who said we can track this.

If adoptions go down, we can always drop the rate back to $40.

It's not like it's carved in stone.

You don't need a charter amendment.

It's just, you know, they could go back and say, you know what, after a year, boy, adoptions really fell down.

Let's put it back down to $40.

But I think the idea of see if it's going to make more money, see how it affects, let's take a look at it because in sort of like all these other governmental things we talk about, when it's broke, what are the wrong solutions?

I I mean, and the the the shelter has been broke for a while.

And you know, we're going to have free adoptions.

We're going to have $40 adoptions.

I think the idea of saying, "Let's see what $80 does."

And after 12 to 18 months, you take a look at it, >> and if it's no good, you go back to $40.

>> Okay?

So, we can be cruel to a thousand dogs or we can find one person running around there making $200,000 like down at SLPS and tell them to beat it and then we wouldn't have to do that.

>> I dis I disagree with that.

It's cruelty to animals.

I I I really do.

>> If more animals are going to be euthanized as a result of this, isn't that cruelty?

Well, if any animal is euthanized, is that cruelty?

I I mean, at some point you have to run it as to what do we do with these dogs?

Do you keep them all alive always?

I mean I mean what's your solution to this for running the for running the show?

>> I wouldn't do anything that would lead to more dogs and cats being put down.

I just I I would not do that.

Well, what if the the rate going up ended up with more people, responsible people, adopting animals and taking care of it because it cost them more?

What I'm saying is is we don't know what it's going to do.

You're saying this is immediately going to cause this cruelty to animals.

They've euthanized.

They were euthanizing ones when the charge was $40 to cause a problem.

>> I think it will go up.

I think this will I >> well they they couldn't even I mean things are sort of such a mess at this moment that they couldn't even it took forever to find a director and she's part-time until she finishes school.

Is that right?

>> A new veterinarian.

>> The veterinarian.

>> Well, who was running the shelter before and then >> the ones that I criticized for going to Dave and Busters or giving gift cards and I wish I hadn't.

>> Right.

Right.

>> Yeah.

Yeah.

I I thought they were doing a pretty good job.

They were >> but all of a sudden we were so picky Adam I thought present company included on that lineage.

>> So this is all of y'all's fault.

It just seems like simple economics that if you double the price of something you're going to lessen the demand.

And so you know if there was any sort of suggestion that oh these people that are paying $40 for a dog they're just getting them and then whooping the dog.

I haven't heard anybody say that that's correlated that way.

This just I I don't like it.

I think we're going to be here six months from now.

We're going to be like we told you so.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, and then they can take it and put the fee back down to $40 and that will answer the question as opposed to guessing at what it's going to do.

Here's where somebody said, "Let's try this.

If it doesn't work, we can go back."

That to me doesn't sound like an unreasonable position.

>> Okay.

And my dog will be watching who we rescued.

Sabella, I stood up for you.

>> Your dog's not watching.

Nobody Nobody in my house watching.

No, the bloom came off that.

No, the bloom came off that rose a long time ago.

Yeah, it's been a lot of years.

They know it all now.

>> Okay.

Well, all right.

Another animal story.

Now, a uh judge statewide said basically in ruling that a HOA can uh basically tell you that you cannot raise chickens in the HOA neighborhood, but it was actually a part of a ruling that said the reason I'm saying you can't do this is because it was part of a bill that had like three and four different things uh all lumped in together.

It was uh the gentleman who is against it who his politics and mine are different, but I think he had a good line saying these Frankenstein bills just they're not going to make it.

So Joe, I mean I'm all for chicken raising just like dog adoption, but I think they may have a point here.

Well, you know, and that was the part I looked to when I went to the story was is the real meat of the story was these Frankenstein bills, which is a great phrase that I wish I could take credit for, but where you throw in everything in the kitchen sink and you're trying to get it passed.

I mean, we had that in St.

Louis with the unhoused bill of rights.

>> Yeah.

>> You know, let's take 72 ideas, shove it all into one manifest.

>> That's what Congress does.

And they said the big beautiful.

Is that is that an endorsement or a criticism?

I'm sorry.

Okay.

All right.

You know, so I I'm glad to say I you know, I don't have a problem.

I had a friend who raised chickens in the city, quit just because he said he got tired of doing it.

But so, you know, it was done.

But I I think it's a great idea.

You know, the problem is though is when you go into a a neighborhood that's run by a homeowners association, >> you kind of got to expect there's going to be some stuff where they're going to make rules that >> you don't like.

I I mean, I don't know what the solution to that part is.

I'm glad this got thrown out, even if it had to do with this bill is just too unwieldy, so HOAs can't unroll.

Sometimes HOAs can be just ridiculously oppressive and heavy-handed, but other times, you know, when you're going to be living next to a purple house and it's not Minneapolis or Paisley Park, you know, where it's like you would expect to see Prince's purple house, they can be pretty effective.

And I know that you and I have >> really I'm all for >> I am all for if that's my house and I want it to be purple, then I should have a right to paint it purple.

Well, the HOA is not going to let you do that.

>> You're the president of the HOA.

>> As president, President You're You're the interim president.

>> Yeah.

Yeah.

Interim.

Yeah.

No, I I I I understand that that people want to have their freedoms, but you know, >> Yeah.

I would to heck with them, but >> Well, or I'm kind of hardline on it.

Say like I wouldn't live someplace where there was an HOA.

I mean, because I think this would kind of drive me crazy.

Real uh quick, Bill, famous song, pay paradise, put up a parking lot.

They're going to do that at the old post dispatch building and cover up a park with asphalt.

Come on, man.

>> Well, the crazy thing about it, and I wish them well.

You know, I hope they survive and thrive.

But claiming that there's a parking problem around the post dispatch building is ludicrous.

There's a parking lot just to the west.

There's a parking lot just to the north.

And when I drive by, there's nobody in those parking lots.

And to say that that's our real concern.

I mean, the real concern is that homeless people tend to congregate in the park.

All right.

>> And you know, >> there we go.

>> And and they were there first.

The homeless people were there before McKely's crew got there.

There you go.

All right.

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