Donnybrook
Donnybrook: September 29, 2022
Season 2022 Episode 69 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Bill McClellan, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Ray Hartmann.
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Season 2022 Episode 69 | 27m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
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THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
THE LAST EDITION FOR SEPTEMBER.
WHERE DID THE YEAR GO?
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT A LOT OF HOT TOPICS.
>> FIRST, WENDY WIESE FROM KT KTRS.
>> AND BILL FROM THE POST DISPATCH.
>> RAY HARTMAN, AND THE RIVER FRONT TIMES, AND FROM THE STATE AMERICAN, ALVIN RE REID.
>>> ST. LOUIS -- >> ST. LOUIS ANNOUNCED TWO SCHOOL, ONE OF WHICH STARTED IN 1912 AND THE OTHER 1931.
ROSATI-KAIN AND -- WHERE HE GOT HIS SHEEP SKIN.
AND ROSATI-KAIN THAT PRODUCED ALUMNIS, INCLUDES ELLEN, WHO SANG WITH MEAT LOAF.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?
STEVE BUTTS WAS QUOTED AS SAYING IT IS DEVASTATING.
>> IT IS DEVASTATING FOR SOUTH ST. LOUIS.
I BELIEVE IT WAS CALLED NORTH SIDE CATHOLIC, MCBRIDE IN NORTH ST. LOUIS WHEN IT CLOSED.
THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
WHEN YOU HAVE ENROLLMENT GOING DOWN AND COSTS GOING UP, THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER CHOICE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS OVER.
I DO THINK IT IS KIND OF INTERESTING TO CONTRAST THE AMOUNT OF INK.
MAYBE THE ENROLLMENT BECAUSE ROSATI-KAIN'S ENROLLMENT HAS DIPPED.
YOU BARELY HEAR ROSATI-KAIN COMPARED TO THE OTHER SCHOOL.
WE DO NOT LIKE CHANGE IN ST. LOUIS.
THIS IS UNFORTUNATELY, PART OF A NEW ERA IN A TRANSFORMING TIME.
>> WE NEED THE PICTURE BEHIND YOU AND THE BOTTLE-HEAD OF MARTIN.
HIS HEAD IS SHAKING.
>> IT IS SHAKING?
>> HE IS MAD?
>> HE IS ANGRY HOW CASUAL YOU ARE.
>> I'M NOT TRYING TO BE CASUAL.
>> ROSATI-KAIN, I KNOW ONE OF THE NUNS WHO WORKED THERE, AND SISTER VINSELLA IF SHE IS WATCHING.
SHE MADE ME BELIEVE IN THE MISSION OF THAT SCHOOL.
AND TIM O'NEAL WENT THERE.
IT WAS FOR THE GIRLS WHO WERE IN THE ART, I DON'T MEAN HIPPIES, BUT LEANING IN THAT DIRECTION.
IT IS REALLY SAD THAT ALL OF THAT IS ENDING.
>> I AGREE.
I AGREE.
>> YOU ARE NOT DANCING ON THEIR GRAVE?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
I THINK TRANSITIONS ARE COMING IN EVERY INSTITUTION.
>> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE COVERAGE, AND I MADE IT A DECADE'S LONG POLICY QUESTIONING THE ARCH DIOCESE.
SAINT MARYS GOT MORE COVERAGE BECAUSE THE PARENTS WERE, I GUEST DEVIANT.
THEY WANT THE INDEPENDENT CATHOLIC SCHOOL ASSOCIATION TO COME IN.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
ROSATI-KAIN THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY OF THAT.
WOULD ACCOUNT FOR THE DIFFERENT IN COVERAGE.
>> BUT BILL IS RIGHT, THE LOSS FOR EACH INSTITUTION IS THE SAME.
>> IT IS.
>> WHY DO YOU THINK THAT ONE SCHOOL IS BEING MORE DEVIANT?
>> I THINK IT IS BOY'S SCHOOL AGAINST THE GIRL'S SCHOOL.
>> IT IS EARLY.
AS WE FIND OUT FROM THE CENSUS, ONE OUT OF 5 KIDS HAVE MOVED AND 8 SCHOOL CLOSURES.
THIS IS THE BEGINNING FOR THE ARCH DIOCESE.
I'M SORRY.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> CATHOLIC SCHOOLS IN URBAN SETTINGS ARE CLOSING.
THE NUMBERS ARE LOWER.
YOU CAN'T SAY WELL, THERE ARE MORE BLACK GIRLS THAN WHITE GIRLS BECAUSE THERE JUST ISN'T A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE SCHOOLS.
THERE'S ALL THE MORE REASON TO PROTECT THAT SCHOOL.
IT HAS CREATED ITS ONLY LITTLE GROUP.
IT IS A CATHOLIC SCHOOL, AND A PRIVATE SCHOOL.
IF YOU ARE APART OF THE FABRIC -- >> BUT, THE FABRIC IS TORN.
DUTCH TOWN HAS SOARING CRIME RATES.
WE HAD A CALLER THE OTHER DAY THAT SAID THAT SAINT MARY'S IS A ROSE IN A THORN BUSH.
>>> I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THE HIGH SCHOOLS OUT THERE THAT HAVE DECIDED TO COOPERATE WITH THE NEW LAW, 775.
THAT HIGH SCHOOLS IN MISSOURI CANNOT PROVIDE EXPLICIT SEXUAL MATERIAL TO THE STUDENTS.
NOW LIBRARIANS ARE TALKING A ANATO ANATOMY, 1984, AND KIRK WOOD TOOK 14 BOOKS OFF OF THE SHELF.
>> I CAN'T HIDE MY HOW DISENCHANTED WITH KIRK WOOD.
BECAUSE YOU ARE BEING SCARED INTO DOING SOMETHING.
AND THE COMMUNICATION IS THAT, WELL, BECAUSE IT IS A LAW, WE DON'T WANT ANY EMPLOYEE TO BE CHARGED WITH A CRIME.
NO, NO, NO.
THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
THEY ARE RELYING ON THE FEAR OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
AND I THINK IF YOU JUST STAND UP TO THE BULLY AND SAY NO!
.
THE BULLY GOES AWAY!
>> IF YOU DON'T STAND UP, THE BULLY CONTINUES.
>> TODAY, IT IS MUSIC, PLAYS, WHATEVER.
>> THE MOUSE, THE GRAPHIC NOVEL ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST, I REMEMBER READING THAT.
AND IT WAS NEVER ANYTHING BUT A GRAPHIC NOVEL.
IT WAS SPELLBINDING, AND THE IDEA THAT KIDS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL CAN'T READ THAT ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST, IT IS SHOCKING TO ME.
>> TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, THERE'S THIS TALK WE DON'T WANT TO GO TO JOB.
CHECK WITH A LAWYER AND SEE HOW MANY TIMES A MISDEMEANOR, BY THE WAY, THE LARGE MAJORITY OF PROSECUTORS HAVE MADE CLEAR THEY WON'T PROSECUTE.
THE FIRST DEFENDING LIBRARY AN, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT JAIL.
THE FACT THAT THAT WORD COMES UP.
HAVE GUTS.
STAND UP FOR SOMETHING.
>> DOESN'T THE LEGISLATION ALLOW THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO PROSECUTE THESE CRIMES?
>> NO ONE IS GOING TO PROSECUTE.
>> REALLY?
THE PUBLICITY -- >> REALLY?
>> IF THEY HAVE ANOTHER -- >> I DON'T CARE IF IT IS A BLUFF.
>> NO, NO.
THAT'S NOT THE ARGUMENT.
THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY THROWN SOMEBODY IN JAIL.
THEY MAY BE DOING TIME.
KIRK WOOD, DON'T GIVE INTO IT!
ALL OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
DON'T GIVE IN!
.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT WENZVILLE.
I DON'T THINK I READ -- UNTIL I WAS IN COLLEGE.
AND THE CONTENT IN OTHER BOOKS I READ IN COLLEGE, I DON'T KNOW THAT MIDDLE SCHOOLERS -- >> I DON'T KNOW.
>> -- [ALL TALKING AT ONCE].
>> CAN I MAKE ONE QUICK POINT?
WHEN I WAS IN FOURTH GRADE, AND TIMES WERE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THEY ARE NOW.
TWO THINGS CHANGED MY WORLD; THE MOVIE THE HANGMAN.
WE SAW THE SHORT FILM THE LOTTERY.
LOOK THEM UP.
WE WATCHED THEM IN FOURTH GRADE.
>> I THINK SCHOOLS WILL ALLOW YOUR MOTHER, OR A STUDENT'S MOTHER TO PUT HIS OR HER NAME AT THE LIBRARY DESK AND SAY THE QUESTIONABLE BOBBY AND WENDY CAN'T DRAW THESE BOOKS.
>> THE BOTTOM LINE, THIS SHOULD NOT BE DONE IN ANY RESPECT BY EITHER PARTY PARTISAN LEGISLATURES ARE TRYING TO MAKE A POINT.
TO YOUR CONCERN, WHICH MAY BE VALID, THAT IS WHAT YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE BOARD, AND LIBRARIANS ARE FOR.
>> FOR BETTER OR WORSE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THE KIDS WITH THEIR PHONES CAN ACCESS SO MUCH WORSE!
>> OF COURSE!
>> CAN I PUT IN A PLUG FOR THE SAINT LOUIS LIBRARY HAS THESE BOOKS.
IT IS CALLED THE BANNED SECTION AND MUSIC, THEY CALL IT A BANNED BOOK SECTION.
I LIKE THAT.
>> YEAH.
>> YES.
>> MISSOURI HAS THIS WEIRD THING WHERE IT TAXES PROPERTY, REAL ESTATE AND YOUR BOAT, CAR, ETC.
>> IT IS NOT MY BOAT.
[LAUGHTER.]
>> NOT THE YACHT.
>> I HAVE TWO USED CARS.
>> THOSE USED CARS ARE APPRECIATING IN VALUE BECAUSE OF INFLATION.
AS A RESULT, THE STATE LAW SAYS THE ASSESSORS HAS TO LOOK AT THEM AND THE CAR IS GOING UP IN VALUE AND THE PERCENTAGE THAT THE STATE USES OR THE COUNTY TO TAX IT REMAINS THE SAME.
SO YOUR TAXES ARE GOING UP WHILE YOU SLEEP.
YOUR CAR'S VALUE IS GOING UP.
BUT THEY HAVE DECIDED WE WILL DIAL IT BACK.
NOT MUCH.
DO YOU THINK THAT JACK AND JILL SHOULD GET A BREAK?
>> I DON'T.
I THINK INFLATION HITS EVERYBODY INCLUDING THE GOVERNMENTS.
EVERYBODY IS PAYING MORE.
IF MY 2013 HONDA GOES UP IN VALUE AND I HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE BIT EXTRA ON IT, THAT'S FINE.
BECAUSE THE SERVICES THAT I WANT FROM MY GOVERNMENT ARE COSTING A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO.
AND I WANT THOSE SERVICES.
IF I CALL 911, I WANT A POLICE RESPONSE.
IF -- I WANT THE STREET LIGHTS TO WORK.
I WANT -- >> THE GARBAGE TO GET PICKED UP.
>> IF EVERYTHING COSTS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MY HONDA IS WORTH MORE, I WILL PAY MORE.
>> I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
ALL OTHER TAXES ARE GOING UP.
IF YOU PAY THE 1 PERCENT EARNING TAXES, THAT'S GOING UP.
SALE TAXES BECAUSE THE PRODUCTS AND SERVICES YOU BUY, THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.
YOU ARE PAYING MORE SALES TAX THAN YOU WERE A YEAR AGO.
AND AS A RESULT, THE LITTLE GUY, ESPECIALLY IF HE IS MAKING MORE MONEY ON THE INCOME TAX.
I THINK THE TAXES ARE KILLING AMERICANS.
>> DIDN'T STEVE SAY THE SERVICES WOULDN'TING IMPACT -- WOULDN'T BE IMPACTED AT ALL?
>> WHEN SOMETHING GETS CUT.
THROWING THE BUCKET WATER IN THE SHALLOW END OF THE POOL.
WE HAD TO CUT THIS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT WE CUT PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.
WE CAN'T SAY THAT.
WE CAN HAVE THAT IF IT GETS CUT.
>> THE COUNTY IS GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS.
>> THERE IS CONTEXT NEEDED.
WHICH IF YOU ARE IN A LOW SERVICES STATE LIKE MISSOURI IS, IT IS A DIFFERENT CONTEXT.
IT IS A DIFFERENT SET OF DECISIONS TO BE MADE.
SAY ILLINOIS, WHERE THERE'S AN ARGUMENT THAT THE TAXES ARE TOO HIGH; YOU KNOW.
EVERYONE THINKS THAT THEIR TAXES ARE TOO HIGH.
IF YOU LOOK, MISSOURI IS IN THE BOTTOM, SOMETIMES THE VERY BOTTOM, THE BOTTOM THIRD OF ALL OF THE STATES IN VIRTUALLY IN EVERYTHING THAT MATTERS.
>> THESE ARE TAXES.
YOUR FRIENDS IN ILLINOIS DOESN'T HAVE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.
THAT'S WHY SO MANY CARS ARE REGISTERED THERE.
>> WE NEED TO LOOK AT MISSOURI TO LOOK AT THE REVENUES.
>> SPEAKING OF CARS.
>> WENDY WIESE, KIA AND HYUNDAI RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE ST. LOUIS OFFICE SAYING TOO MONEY OF YOUR VEHICLES ARE BEING STOLEN BY THE CITIZENS OF ST. LOUIS.
REPAIR THE PROBLEM WITHIN 30 DAYS.
THEY DID GET BACK TO THEM AND SAID IT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM.
IT IS YOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE STEALING THE CARS!
.
IF THERE ARE PORCH PIRATES STEALING YOUR PACKAGES FROM YOUR PORCH, ARE YOU REPORTING IT TO AMAZON?
DO YOU THINK ANYTHING WILL HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF THIS?
>> YOU ARE TORN.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HOLD THE THIEVES RESPONSIBLE.
IF YOU ARE STEALING A CAR, I'M NOT GOING TO BLAME THE CAR MANUFACTURER.
AT THE SAME TIME, HYUNDAI AND KIA HAVE OFFERED COMPUTER SECURITY PROGRAMS TO HELP THE CAR OWNERS IMPROVE THE, OR LESSEN THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THEY WILL BE STOLEN AND THEY ARE OFFERING STEERING WHEEL LOCKS.
THEY ARE SAYING THAT MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING TO SHEEN AHAMILTON.
>> THIS IS LIKE THE CORPORATE DANCE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY WILL JUST AGREE TO THIS?
HOW MANY MILLION YOU WANT?
NO.
ONCE WE HIT A COURTROOM, IT IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADJUDICATE THIS CASE IN ST. LOUIS.
WE CAN'T GET THE MENU CHANGES.
WE MIGHT WANT TO KIND OF ONCE WE GET CLOSER AND CLOSER -- >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS INTERESTING, THE CITY COUNSELORER WORKS FOR BENNETT.
>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CRIME, THE CITY NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING.
DO I THINK IT IS GOING WORK?
I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T THINK THE CITY SAYS IT IS NOT THE THIEVE'S FAULT.
THIS IS NOT THE ONLY CITY DOING IT, THAT YOU CAN DO IS PUT PRESSURE ON THE AUTOMAKERS.
AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY, THAT DOESN'T MAKE -- >> BUT, I WILL SAY RAY -- >> -- >> RYAN, YOUR COLLEAGUE, HE POINTED OUT THAT 456 THEFTS IN AUGUST.
THEY PROSECUTED ONE PERSON.
>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING THING.
IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR A WHILE.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT I THINK IT IS WORTH THE CITY TRYING.
BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY HIGH EXPECTATIONS.
>> AS ONE OF THE PERSONS WHO OPPOSED THE LAWSUIT AGAINST THE RAMS AND I WAS PROVEN WRONG.
I OPPOSE THIS LAWSUIT TOO.
IT IS RIDICULOUS.
IF THESE CARS ARE EASILY STOLEN.
PEOPLE QUIT BUYING THEM.
THE MARKET HAS A VOICE IN THIS.
AND I DON'T THINK YOU CAN BLAME THE AUTO MAKER FOR STEALING CARS.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BOUGHT THEM AS USED CARS AND THEY CAN'T BE PICKY.
I GOT A LOAN.
THEY ARE CHEAPER.
>> YEAH.
THEY ARE CHEAPER.
>> THERE IS SOMETHING THAT THESE CARS WITH GETTING STOLEN ALL OF THE TIME.
PEOPLE SEEM TO BE TALING THIS TYPE OF CAR.
NO.
-- STEALING.
>> WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THIS TIKTOK VIDEO THAT WENT VIRAL THAT INSTRUCTED THE THIEVES TO HOW TO GET AWAY WITH THIS.
>> CAN YOU SEND ME THE LINK?
[LAUGHTER.]
>> WE DON'T AGREE ON MUCH.
IF BILL GETS NONE OF THE RAM'S MONEY.
NONE.
>> [LAUGHTER.]
>> NONE.
>> IF YOU ARE DRIVING A NEW CAR AFTER THE MONEY.
I SAID WE DIVIDE IT UP EQUALLY.
>> I DON'T DESERVE IT EITHER.
>> YOU HAVE TO RECUSE YOURSELF.
>> WE WILL ADDRESS THAT IN A CORNER.
>> RAY, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT CORY BUSH, THE U.S. REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE FIRST DISTINCT RICTS IN MISSOURI.
ONE OF THE FEW DEMOCRATS NOT TO SUPPORT THE 60 MILLION DOLLARS TO FUND THE POLICE.
I THINK SOME DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO SHOW THEY ARE PRO-POLICE.
BUT BUSH.
SHE PROPOSED AN ALTERNATIVE, 100 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE VICTIMS OF POLICE VIOLENCE.
[LAUGHTER.]
>> IS SHE ON TO SOMETHING.
OR IS SHE OFF?
>> THE ONE THING ABOUT BUSH, IF YOU DON'T LIKE HER OR NOT, AS MUCH AS ANYBODY VOTES HER MIND.
-- I DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD'VE VOTED.
I AIN'T IN CONGRESS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I WOULD'VE VOTED.
THE IDEA THAT MANY PEOPLE PARTICULARLY PROGRESSIVES, LIKE BUSH, ARE CONVINCED THAT MORE POLICE ARE NOT THE ANSWER.
THERE IS A CRISIS FOR VICTIMS OF POLICE VIOLENCE.
I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH HER VOTING THAT WAY.
>> MAR JOR E TAYLOR GREEN VOTES OR CONSCIENCE.
AND I DON'T SUPPORT HER AND I DON'T SUPPORT BUSH!
.
DEFUNDING THE POLICE AND WE NEED FEWER POLICE.
THAT IS NOT -- I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ANSWER AT ALL.
>> I DON'T EITHER.
>> DOES SHE HAVE HER PERSONAL SECURITY DETAIL?
>> I'M NOT A DEFUND POLICE.
NEVER HAVE BEEN.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH HER ADVANCING -- >> OR GREEN ADVANCING HER STUFF?
>> IT DOESN'T MEAN I'M NOT SYMPATHETIC TO ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.
>> ONE IS MORE EXTREME.
>> I DISAGREE WITH DEFUND THE POLICE.
SHE COULD HAVE LEFT THAT OUT.
IN THE ANNOUNCEMENT, THERE IS TOO MUCH ABOUT THE POLICE IN IT.
WE MAKE THE STATEMENT LIKE, NO FAULT.
IF A CHILD, OR A YOUNG PERSON IS KILLED BY A POLICE OFFICER, IT IS TRAUMATIC ON THE FAMILY, WE SHOULD FIND SOME WAY TO GET COUNSELING.
LEAVE IT AT THAT.
THERE IS NO REASON TO BASH THE POLICE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
ONCE AGAIN, JUST -- WHOEVER DECIDED TO CALL IT DEFUND THE POLICE -- COME ON.
IT IS A HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE IDEA.
GIVE THEM THE MONEY, NOT THAT.
BUT LET'S FIND A WAY -- >> ANY TIME THAT ANYONE HAS A CHILD KILLED ON THE STREET, THEY NEED HELP WITH MENTAL HEALTH.
IF BUSH SAYS FOR ANYONE WHO LOSES A FAMILY MEMBER, YOU GET HELP.
>> I DON'T HAVE HER STATEMENT -- I AGREE WITH IT AND I DO NOT THINK THERE'S EQUAL TO THAT.
I DON'T.
>> -- INSURRECTIONS.
>> THE BUSINESS AGENT FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS IS NOT WORKING.
IT WAS AN ANNOUNCEMENT BROKEN BY YOUR PAPER.
>> SARAH.
IT IS NO LONGER MINE.
>> YOU WORK THERE.
>> IT WAS A GOOD SCOOP FOR THE PAPER.
AND I THINK A LOT OF US THINK IT WAS LONG OVERDUE.
FOR SURE THAT JEFF HIT THE BRICKS.
WHAT I THOUGHT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING WAS THAT THE WAY THE PAPER BROKE IT, SARAH CAME ACROSS E-MAILS FROM THE POLICE UNION TO THE CITY.
THESE ARE OFFICIAL E-MAILS SAYING JEFF OFF THE NEGOTIATING LETTERS AND E-MAILS RIGHT AWAY.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION, WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS, WHEN YOU WERE PLANNING ON TELLING US THIS.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE POLICE -- THEY GIVE LIP SERVICE TO WANT TO HAVE GOOD RELATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
WANT THE POLICE TO HAVE A BETTER IMAGE AND STUFF.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE NOT TO BE TRANSPARENT ON SOMETHING THAT IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL.
THEY SHOULD HAVE ANNOUNCED IT.
>> YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO CALL IN THE HIERARCHY OF POLICE.
IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WHATSOEVER, HE NEEDS TO GO.
IT TOOK A YEAR AND HALF.
WHATEVER.
THE ICE IS THAWING.
WE HAVE GOOD THINGS COMING OUR WAY, MAYBE, AND JEFF IS IN THE WAY.
SOMEONE CAN SAY THE EXACT SAME THINGS HE DOES AND NOT IN A WAY HE DOES THAT IS NOT IRRITATI IRRITATING.
>> I SUSPECT, RAY, THE UNION, THE ASSOCIATION, WAS DIVIDED.
>> WELL, THEY ARE.
>> AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY THE LEADERSHIP OF THE UNION WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THE FACT.
>> I HAVE TO ASK YOU TO HOLD THAT THOUGHT.
WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ON THE 9 LINE.
>> TYRONE FROM ILLINOIS CALLED AND HAD THIS QUESTION FOR US.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ALL OF THE GUESTS WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE MONEY KROENK KROENKE SHOULD BE USED.
>> WE TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER.
RAY, YOU SAID MENTAL HEALTH.
>> A PIECE OF IT.
I USED IT AS AN EXAMPLE.
WHAT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THE POINT, SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN BROADLY AGREE UPON.
AGAIN, MENTAL HEALTH RELATED SOLUTIONS.
AND THE THINGS THAT ARE ACROSS CITY AND COUNTY BORDERS.
>> I THINK THE CITY PERFORMANPORTION, NOT ALL OF IT.
SOME COULD GO TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR THE HIRING OF TEACHERS, PAY INCREASE -- I'M NOT SAYING THEY DON'T HAVE GOOD TEACHERS.
TO HELP WITH CLASS SIZE.
>> IT SHOULD BE FOR MORE POLICE OFFICERS AND MORE GARBAGE MEN.
>> I AGREE WITH BOTH OF THOSE, BILL, AND EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.
THAT CAN'T BE OVERLOOKED IN ANY WAY IF THEY ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
>> I WILL THROW ONE MORE IN.
I WAS ON DELMAR, NORTH HIGHWAY, THE PLANTERS ARE NOT LOOKING GOOD.
THERE'S NO PLANT MATERIAL.
YOU GO TO KING'S HIGHWAY.
NEAR THE HOSPITAL.
THEY LOOK GREAT.
THERE IS A GRAD THAT SAYS IF YOU CAN CLEAN UP AN AREA AND GREEN IT UP, YOU WILL CALM EVERYONE DOWN.
IT REDUCES HOMICIDES.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
>> I BELIEVE THAT.
>> WE MAY HAVE TO GET HER ON NEXT UP.
>> THANKS.
>> CALL THE 9 LINE.
WE WILL TELL YOU HOW.
>> FIRST, LET'S GO TO THE MAILBAG.
>> BILL'S COMMENT ON THE VERBAL ASSAULT, BEING OFF AIR IS NOT A PRIVATE RANT.
THAT WAS -- >> THANK YOU.
>> TO BE FAIR, CAN YOU MENTION HOW MANY DEBATES THAT TRUDY HAS TURNED DOWN.
THAT'S ONE.
>> YOU CAN WRITE US, WE LOVE YOUR E-MAILS, DONNYBROOK AT 9 PBS.ORG.
AND HASH TAG DONNYBROOK.
>> CALL THE NUMBER.
THANKS, TYRONE.
>> LISTEN AN APPLE, TUNE IN, SPOTIFY, AND GOOGLE PLAY.
THERE'S NO TUNA FISH.
[LAUGHTER.]
>> IN A MOMENT, WE WILL TALK TO MARK MANTOVANI.
ALVIN AND I WILL.
HE IS THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY.
JOIN US ON NEXT UP.
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