>> I KNOW YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME BUT IT'S GOING TO BE 60 DEGREES ON MONDAY.

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS.. HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE LAST OF THE BAD WEATHER.

ALVIN REED IS JOINING US.

AND WENDY WIESE AND BILL McCLELLAN OF THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

AND AMY FROM KMOX.

WELL, JOE, INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT OF SLPS, BORISHADE, IS NOW SUPERINTENDENT BORISHADE.

THIS IS ON.. MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT IT SUDDENLY HAPPENED THINGS.

I GUESS THE DEAL I.. DON'T THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT'S DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THIS.

>> I WILL THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS ABOUT THIS AFTERNOON.

IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT THEY HAD WENT INTO CLOSED SESSION, THE SCHOOL BOARD, APPARENTLY UNBEKNOWNSTSED TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.

THEY VOTED 4-1, MS. HUBBARD OPPOSING IT, TO NAME MILLICENT BORISHADE, WHO WAS THE INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT, NAMING HER AS THE PERMANENT SUPERINTENDENT.

I THINK THE EARLY CRITIC..

I'M HEARING IS IN FIVE WEEKS THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ELECTION FOR A SCHOOL BOARD.

WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM WITH JUST LETTING THIS MS. BORISHADE CONTINUE AT INTERIM STUDENT FOR FIVE WEEKS?

WHY DID WE HAVE TO RUSH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE MS. HUBBARD SAYING IT WAS A COMPLETE SURPRISE TO ME THAT SHE WAS EVEN HIRED.

ONCE AGAIN, THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM SEEMS TO SIMPLY INVITE PEOPLE TO LOOK DOWN ON THEIR ACTIONS.

>> ESPECIALLY SINCE DR. SCARLET WAS SUCH A DISASTER, AND A BIG PART OF THE DISASTER WAS HER BRINGING IN ALL OF HER CRONIES AND HER CLOSEST CRONY AND FIRST HIRE WAS MILLICENT BORISHADE.

GOOD GRIEF, WHAT ARE THEY THINKING OVER THERE?

>> AND I THINK THIS IS O.. THOSE WHERE THERE'S A STORY HERE.

YOU KNOW, JUST..

NEON SIGN, THERE HAS TO BE A STORY HERE.

BUT MS. HUBBARD SAID THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO APPETITE FOR A NATIONWIDE SEARCH.

YOU KNOW, GO.. FINDING A CANDIDATE WHO DIDN'T HAVE A HISTORY WITH THE CREDIT CARDS ISSUED TO BOARD MEMBERS OF THE SLPS AS MS. BORISHADE DOES.

DR. BORISHADE DOES.

IS SHE EVEN LICENSED NOW?

SHE WAS THE ONE WHO WAS NOT LICENSED TO BE A SUPERINTENDENT WHEN SHE WAS AN ASSISTANT SO HER DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT -- THIS GOES FROM BAD TO WORSE.

THE ONLY PEOPLE BENEFITING ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

THE CHILDREN, I MEAN, IF IT WEREN'T SO -- I MEAN, IT'S A TRAGEDY PERIOD.

>> THA.. GR AMOUNT SS.

THE BOARD OF CALLED MEN IS A CIRCUS BUT YOU ARE STEALING FROM KIDS.

IT'S SO DIS BROSS.

>> IF YOU TALKED TO MR. DAVIS OR TONY COUSINS, THEY ARE DOING THIS FOR THE KIDS.

THE KIDS DON'T WANT THEM EATING AT APPLEBEE'S.

THE KIDS FEEL BETTER KNOWING THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE AT THE CHOP HOUSE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

THEY DON'T HAV..

I WILL LOVE YOUR WORD, THAT'S PERFECT, IT'S GR G. ROSS.

>> WHERE DID THE PROBLEM.. FROM?

SEATTLE.

WHERE DID MS. .. FROM?

SEATTLE.

..

THEY ARE BATTLING FOR THE STATE NOT TO TAKE OVER THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU PU.. WHERE SOMEONE SAYS WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEN WHAT WR WE GOING TO SAY?

IT'S IN DEFENSIVE AND SAD.

ANOTHER SAD OCCURRENCE THIS WEEK, EDDIE MALONE FOUNDATION ANNOUNCED THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE AN ANNIE MALONE PARADE.

CITED WAS A LACK OF FUNDRAISING.

THEY SAID THERE WAS A TRUMP IMPACT, NOT THAT ANYTHING HAS HIT ANNIE MALONE AS OF YESTERDAY BUT THEY HAD TO BE PREPARED FOR LOSS OF FEDERAL FUNDING.

BILL, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?

.. THAT ANNIE MALONE, A VERY SUCCESSFUL WOMAN IN THE VILLE, AND HOMER G PHILLIPS WAS THERE AND SUMNER HIGH AND THIS IS ALL PART OF THE FABRIC OF ST. LOUIS.

AND THAT PARADE HAS BEEN AROUND FOREVER.

I .. FUNDRAISER IN ITSELF.

BUT NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD RAISE MONEY HAVING A PARADE.

BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR ARGUMENT THEY WOULD RATHER SPEND THE MONEY ON THE PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO HELP, BUT IT'S STILL SEEMS SAD THAT THERE WILL BE NO ANNIE MALONE PARADE.

>> IT IS SAD BUT IT'S SUCH A GROWN UP, RESPONSIBLE, ACCOUNTABLE THING TO DO.

I WISH THAT THEY WERE RUNNING FOR SCHOOL BOARD OF THE ST. LOUIS PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO BE SAYING, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR PROGRAMS ARE SOUND.

FOR THE TIME BEING LET'S HELP AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN HELP AND NOT DIVERT OUR ATTENTION OR OUR FOCUS WITH THIS PARADE.

MAYBE IT WILL BE BACK, WHO KNOWS.

SPONSORSHIP .. THING, THEY SEEM TO BE CALLING CORPORATE LEADERS, DORP PRATT CORPORATE CO N SOURCE TO TASK BUT I'M IMPRESSED WITH ANY ORGANIZATION TODAY THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE ACTUAL SERVICES BEFORE THE PARTY.

>> WHAT SHE SAID.

>> THAT REALLY NAMED IT.

>> I WISH THEY WERE RUNNING THE SCHOOL BOARD.

>>.. CITY -- >> WELL,..

THINK THIS IS MAYBE COMPLETELY A DONE DEAL.

THERE WAS A GRANT UNDER THE SLVC, THE MUCH CRITICIZED AND REPORTED UPON NORTH SIDE GRANT PROGRAM, ANNIE MALONE WAS IN FOR PART OF THAT.

THAT'S ON HOLD, AS ARE A TON OF GRANTS ON THERE.

SO MAYBE SOMETHING SHAKES OUT AND IT CAN STILL HAPPEN.

DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK ANNIE MALONE IS LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT IF THE CITY DOES HAVE MONEY FOR THEM, WHICH THEY DID WHEN THEY HAD THE LIST OF PEOPLE WHO WERE NAMED IN THE GRANT ORIGINALLY, ANNIE MALONE WAS ONE OF MANY ORGANIZATIONS.

THIS MAY BE AT LEAST A SHOUT ACROSS THE BOW TO SAY, HEY, WE SURE COULD USE IT.

>> AMY, YOU ARE RICH.

[LAUGHTER] >> AM RADIO DOLLARS.

>> THE CALL TO NAACP, SAYING HEY, RICH ATHLETES, COME UP WITH THE MONEY.

THAT TURNS ME OFF.

HOW ABOUT YOU?

>> IT'S NOT THE BEST WAY TO ENDEAR YOURSELF TO PEOPLE WHO COULD BE GENEROUS WITH THEIR MONEY.

THERE ARE A LOT OF WORTHY CAUSES.

..

BUT WIN DONORS OVER.

IT'S NOT THE BEST LANGUAGE.

>> I THINK $250,000 IS THE NUMBER THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE THE PARADE.

KIND OF LAKE YOU, BI.. KNOW HOW -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT COST $250,000.

>> SPONSORSHIP PROBABLY >> THEY STILL .. MY UNDERSTANDING.

LAST YEAR NIKE, WHITE CASTLE, I THINK THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHERS, I DON'T THINK THEY WENT AWAY, BUT I'M NOT SURE ON THAT.

BUT IT'S $250,000.

COULD ST. LOUIS COME UP WITH $250,000 BETWEEN NOW AND WHAT I AM TOLD HAS TO BE LATE MARCH FOR THE PARADE TO HAPPEN.

I THINK IT COULD HAPPEN.

MAYBE FROM ONE DONOR OR MAYBE FROM, YOU KNOW, IF -- >> WHAT?

>..

HAPPEN TO BE THE AMOUNT THAT THE CITY WAS LOOKING TO GIVE THEM.

>> YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.

>> I DON'T MANY TO LAUGH, BUT YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS OUT.

>> CAN IT COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE?

I THINK THIS IS LIKE THE FIRST STEPS.

SHAME PEOPLE IN AND SAYING YOU ARE NOT GIVING US ENOUGH MONEY TENDS TO WORK THE OPPOSITE.

PEOPLE SAYING I WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME, BUT NOW I DON'T KNOW.

..

THE CITY KNOW HEY, IF YOU HAVE MONEY, NOW IS THE TIME.

>> IF I WAS RINGING -- IF I WAS IN CHARGE OF GIVING THE CITY'S MONEY AWAY, I THINK I WOULD RATHER GIVE THE $250,000 TO ANNIE MALONE HOME FOR THEIR SERVICES.

LIKE YOU WERE SAYING..

INSTEAD OF LET'S HAVE A PARADE.

>> BUT THEY WOULD TELL YOU THAT'S WHAT THE MONEY IS FOR.

IF THEY WERE TO GET THE MONEY FROM THE CITY, IT WOULD GO TO SERVICES.

ALL RIGHT, IF THE CITY GAVE THEM $250,000 TOMORROW, AND THEY SAID IT'S GOING TO GO TO SERVICES AND, OH, BY THE WAY WE ARE HAVING THE PARADE THEN IT GOES TO GENERAL FUNDS.

>> EITHER WAY PEOPLE WILL BE INTERESTED.

>>.. 250 GIVING A -- $250,000, SPLIT THAT IN FOUR, I THINK YOU COULD FIND PEOPLE TO GIVE $250 ENOUGH.

>> LET ME JUST SAY, ST. LOUIS JUST LOST ONE OF ITS MOST GENEROUS CITIZENS.

JIMMY HOLLERAN.

A LONG-TIME PERSONAL INJURY LAWYER AND A POLITICAL FORCE TO BE RECKONED WHEN AND THE OWNER OF MKGERKS AND A TREMENDOUSLY GENEROUS GUY THAT HELPED ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE.

JIMMY JUST DIED A COUPLE DAYS AGO.

I MET HIM A COUPLE TIMES.

A TREMENDOUS GUY.

>> YEAH, HE WAS.

>> AMY, I'M GOING TO STAY WITH YOU ON THIS ONE.

AND IN ILLINOIS GOVERNOR PRITZKER SAID I DON'T WANT THESE CELL PHONES IN CLASSROOMS AND I DON'T WANT ANY SCREENS IN THE SCHOOL.

NOW, OFF HAND I KIND OF SAY LIKE, WEEK, IF THE NEW TECHNOLOGICAL LEARNING -- LEARN TO PRONOUNCE IT.

REALLY SMART HERE.

ANYWAY, THE NEW VINYL STUFF, IF IT HELPS ANY KID IN A CLASSROOM, I'M FOR IT.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?

>> IT'S INTERESTED WITH THE PHONE-FREE SCHOOLS I'M ALL FOR IT.

I'M NOT THE BIG AI P.. BEFORE RADIO I WAS A TEACHER AND A TUTOR, SO EVEN IN MY CLASSES WITH HONORS WRITING AND LITERATURE, THE KIDS TOOK NOTES BY HAND BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S STATISTICALLY PROVEN WHEN YOU ARE TRANSCRIBING AND WRITING BY HAND THE NEUROPATHWAYS IN YOUR BRAIN IS FIRING IN DIFFERENT WAYS THAN IT IS WHEN YOU ARE TYPING ON A COMPUTER, DEFINITELY COPYING AND PASTING ON A SCREEN.

I AM BOOK AND PAPER.

I GET IT LIKE WILLIAM F BUCKLEY STANDING BEFORE HISTORY YELLING STOP, I DO THAT FOR TECHNOLOGY, AS WELL.

I KNOW I HAVE MORE BACKWARDS, BUT AT LEAST WITH THE PHONES.

PHONES OUT OF THE CLASSROOM.

I SAW STUNNING DATA WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LACK OF RESIL QUEENS, THE LACK OF CRITICAL THINKING, THE LACK OF ABILITY TO SELF DEDICATE, NOT TO MENTION LOW SELF-ESTEEM.

I FORGOT WHAT COLLEGER IT WAS OUT OF BUT IT SAID GEN DIS.

IS THE GREATEST LOSS OF HUMAN CAPITAL WE'VE EVER SEEN COMING OUT OF THE UNITED STATES.

MEANING WE HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE GENERATION THAT WE ARE SACRIFICING ON THE ALTER OF TECHNOLOGY.

WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT IT WOULD DO TO HUMAN BRAINS.

I THINK IT'S SO DAMNING ON EVERY LEVEL.

AND EVENTUALLY THEY HAVE TO GET ON COMPUTERS AND PHONES BUT NOT IN THE CLASSROOM AS A KID.

>> AND YOU TEACH.

>> NOT THROUGH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, THROUGH PUBLIC CO-OPS, JUST TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, HIGH SCHOOL AND YOUNGER.

WHETHER YOU ARE LOOKING AT THEIR ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEIR PEERS TO FOCUS ON A PIECE OF PAPER TO PROBLEM SOLVE ON THEIR OWN.

YOU HAVE TEENS USING ChatGPT TO TEXT BREAKUP NO, SIR.

>> I HAD KNOW IDEA THAT AS AN EDUCATOR YOU ARE WAY OVERQUALIFIED FOR AM RADIO THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.

BUT IS THERE ANY INFORMATION, AMY, ON PARENTS AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE -- ARE THEY AGAINST THIS OR FOR IT?

BECAUSE I COULD SEE SOME HESITATION IF MY CHILD HAS ALREADY STARTED SORT OF DALLYING DOWN THE ROAD OF THE SCREEN.

ARE THEY AT A DISADVANTAGE TO SWITCH COURSE NOW?

>> AN INCREDIBLE RESOURCE IS THE BOOK THE INCREDIBLE GENERATION.

NOT ONLY DO PARENTS WANT TO BE PHONE FREE BUT KIDS WANT TO BE PHONE FREE.

I INTERVIEWED TEENAGERS AND SAID IF YOU COULD PUSH A BUTTON AND MAKE THE PHONES GO AWAY AND JUST HAVE A FLIP PHONE WOULD YOU DO IT?

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT ONE KID HAS THEIR KIDS NOT ON PHONE THEY WILL ARE OSTRACIZED.

IT'S..

SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS ADULTS IS WE HAVE TO STEP IN AND ALL OF US AT ONCE GET RID OF THE PHONES.

I THINK WHEN W.. THAT TIME DECADES NOW WE WILL BE ASHAMED AND HORRIFIED WHAT WE LET THESE KIDS EXPERIENCE BY GIVING THEM SCREENS.

>> I THINK IF MY GRANDCHILDREN WERE GIVEN THE CHOICE OF NO SCREENS OR MORE SCREENS, THEY WOULD SAY MORE SCREENS.

I MEAN -- >> IT'S COCAINE, THOUGH.

YOUR BRAIN, WHEN YOU TAKE KIDS OFF OF SCREENS, YOU HAVE SEEN KIDS WHERE THEY WILL PUNCH HOLES IN THE WALL FOR THE FIRST FEW WEEKS UNTIL THEY OVERCOME, THEY GET THROUGH THAT TIME OF A SCREEN INVOLVED.

>> I'M SORRY, ADULTS WHO ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR CELL PHONES.

I HAVE AN ANXIETY ATTACK IF I CAN'T FIND MY CELL PHONE, SO HE CAN IMAGINE THE KIDS.

>> IMAGINE THE DEVELOPING BRAINS.

>..

THINK WE CAN LIVE WITHOUT THEM AGAIN.

I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO .. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE A NUCLEAR WAR.

JOE, YOU WENT TO SCHOOL IN A LOG CABIN.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I'M GLAD TO SEE -- I MEAN, THERE SHOULDN'T BE A CELL PHONE IN A CLASS RAM FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER.

I CAN .. COMING FROM THAT.

WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO IS TRY TO TALK TO YOUR FRIENDS.

IN FACT, I KNOW ONE YOUNG LADY WHO QUIT BEING A TEACHER, NOW IS A PARALEGAL, WHO GOT SO FED UP WITH THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.

ONE TIME SHE WAS IN CLASS AND THEY SAID, WELL, CAN WE HAVE YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER TO THE TEACHER AND SHE SAID NO.

MY PERSONAL CELL PHONE NUMBER, NO.

..

THEY SAID WHAT IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, AND SHE SAID JUST ASK ME.

I'..

THEY SAID IT'S EASIER TO TEXT IT.

NO, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND ASK THE QUESTIONS AND THEY ALL LOOKED AT HER LIKE WHAT ARE YOU ASKING US TO DO?

I SHE SAID I'M IN THE WRONG BUSINESS.

KIDS.. AND IT SEEMS THAT KIDS CAN'T SIT AND HAVE A FACE-TO-FACE CONVERSATION LOOKING ACROSS THE TABLE BECAUSE WHEN I GO IN AND SEE A BUNCH OF KIDS SITTING AROUND A TABLE, THEY ARE ALL ON A CELL PHONE TALKING TO SOMEONE NOT AT THE TABLE.

>> IN A RESTAURANT, THERE'S A COUPLE WITH A LITTLE KID NEAR YOU AND THEY PULL OUT THE SCREEN AND THE LITTLE KID JUST GETS LOST IN THE SCREEN.

I THINK IN A WAY THAT'S A NICE THING FOR THE PARENTS.

>> WELL, YOU CAN ENJOY -- I WON'T SAY ENJOY DINNER BUT THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN IN THE REID HOUSEHOLD.

BUT THE ..

MIND BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.

IF I'M GEN Z, WHAT AGE GROUP IS THAT?

&g.. 13, 14 ALL THE WAY UP TO YOUR MID-20s.

I THINK IT STARTS, I THINK GEN Z IS '98 THROUGH 2010.

>> OKAY.

THANK YO.. AND MEANWHILE IN THE COUNTY, THE SHENANIGANS GOING ON INVOLVING PEOPLE, LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, HOW TERRIBLE, CLOWN SHOW, ALL OF THAT, BUT APPARENTLY THERE WAS A PLAN TO MASS EUTHANIZE MANY DOGS IN THE APA SHELTER IN THE COUNTY, WHICH THEN PEOPLE SAID DID NOT EXIST BUT THEN THE POST DISPATCH SAID NOT ONLY DOES IT EXIST, HERE IT IS.

WENDY, A, WHY DOES THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE DOG SHELTER?

AND, 2, IS THIS JUST LIKE BEYOND SAD AND HEADS SHOULD ROLL SORT OF THING?

>> IT'S SO INCREDIBLE ON THE HEELS OF TONY MESSENGER AND THE NEPOTISM STORY.

NO, NO, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT NEPOTISM.

SEE, THIS STORY HERE?

ACTUALLY YOU DID.

THE SAME BASIC THING AT THE APA.

NO, ABSOLUTELY, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRUTH.

AND THEN, SURE ENOUGH, THE POST DISPATCH HAS THIS STORY WHERE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE EMAIL THAT WENT OUT.

SO IN TERMS OF HEADS WILL ROLL, I DON'T -- I MEAN, I JUST DON'T KNOW.

BUT IT IS SO SAD.

AND THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO TAKE CARE OF ANIMALS, THE PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEER AT THOSE SHELTERS, THEY ARE THE BETTER ANGELS, IF YOU WILL.

AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THEY ARE MOBILIZED AND THEY ARE ARGUED AND THEY ARE KEEPING AN EYE ON THIS PARTICULAR SHELTER.

AND WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN THE COUNTY.

IN TERMS OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT CONNECTION, IT HAS TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH RABIES OR, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF SHELTER-BORNE DISEASES BUT THE WHOLE THING SEEMS VERY CONVOLUTED.

>>.. BECAUSE OF SPREAD OF DISEASE ALWAYS GOT LUMPED INTO PUBLIC HEALTH SO IT KIND OF WENT THERE.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM AT ALL, REALLY, WITH THE IDEA THAT THE COUNTY HAD A PLAN FOR SHELTER-WIDE EUTHANASIA.

I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE A PLAN FOR EVERY POSSIBLE SCENARIO.

THAT'S JUST GOOD PLANNING, GOOD GOVERNMENT.

WHAT'S THE WORST CASE WORST-CASE SCENARIO , WHAT'S THIS, WHAT'S THAT, AND GOD FORBID WE EVER HAVE TO USE IT BUT LET'S SAY WE DID, HOW WOULD WE DO IT?

THE PROBLEM IS, AND BASICALLY LET'S CUT TO THE POINT, THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT LIED ABOUT HAVING A PLAN.

REGARDLESS, WE ALL LOVE CUTE, CUDDLY ANIMALS AND WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE EUTHANIZED, EVERYBODY AGREES.

BUT THE REAL PROBLEM WE SHOULD BE UPSET ABOUT IT IS SAYING THERE WAS NO PLAN, CALLING IT A MALICIOUS FALSEHOOD AND A WEEK LATER, OH, THERE WAS A PLAN.

SO WHAT WE SAID BEFORE, IT'S NO LONGER OPERATIVE, HOW ABOUT TELLING THE TRUTH TO START WITH AND SAY WE HAVE A PLAN, WE HAVE A PLAN FOR EVERYTHING, BUT WE DON'T PLAN ON AS YOUING IT.

>> BUT TALKING ABOUT SHELTER-WIDE EUTHANASIA, IS THE PLAN TO KILL ALL OF THE DOGS?

>> IT SOUNDED LIKE IT.

>> I CAN'T IMAGINE A CIRCUMSTANCE IN WHICH THAT WOULD BE -- &g..

I'M SAYING IT'S WORST-CASE SCENARIO.

SO THE IDEA THAT SOM..

EXISTED ON PAPER DOESN'T OFFEND BUT WHAT OFFENDS ME IS PEOPLE GETTING PAID BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS DECIDED TO LIE ABOUT IT.

>> THAT'S WHAT I DON'T GET.

ALSO I GUESS THEY KNOW IT'S A SENSITIVE SUBJECT SO WHY WERE YOU CONCOCTING A PLAN THAT YOU WOULD WIPE OUT EVERYTHING IN THE SHELTER?

TH.. WEEK.

>> DIDN'T SOMEONE DESCRI..

SHELTER LIKE THE WORST OF THE WORST?

>> UNTIL APA TOOK OVER AND THEN IT ACTUALLY BECAME A NICE SHELTER, IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT TO PUT IT.

OUR FAMILY, WE HAVE RESCUED CATS FROM SHELTERS BEFORE.

WE GOT A DOG, HER NAME WAS BELLA, AND SHE WAS A PUPPY SO SHE HADN'T BEEN IN DOCKET RATED INTO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, YOU MIGHT SAY, BUT IF YOU WANT TO HELP OUT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT.

AND THERE'S THE MILLENNIUM HOTEL CITE HAS A PLAN TO BE REDEVELOPED.

>> AND IF WE DON'T SAVE SOME..

THE WEEDS TO PUT IN A POT -- >> YEAH, MAKE IT A FUNDRAISER.

SERIOUSLY.

>&g.. >> ARE YOU HAPPY THAT THE ST. LOUIS SKYLINE MIGHT CHANGE WITH WHATEVER THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD THERE?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF I'M HAPPY ABOUT IT BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME, I'M A DINOSAUR, I LIKE THE ST. LOUIS SKYLINE, BUT IF IT MEANS IT'S GOING TO BRING PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES AND NEW BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE, THEN LET'S GO FOR IT.

IT.

BECAUSE I HAVE THE JOHN PILLS POSTERS AND NOW THEY WILL BE WORTH MORE.

HERE'S WHAT I SAID, FEELS TOO FANCY FOR ST. LOUIS.

I SAW THE RENDERING AND TH.. WHAT CITY IS THIS, IS THIS CHICAGO?

NO.. MAYBE WE HAVE A COMP..

LOOKED FANCY FOR US AND I HOPE IT GETS DONE.

>> AT LEAST IT WILL REVERSE THE CYCLE OF DOOM.

>> THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, YOU'RE RIGHT.

>>.. YOU CAN'T BE ANYTHING EXCEPT MAYBE, LIKE THE WORDS OF THE MAYOR, EXCITED.

>> I LIKE HOW .. FRONT DOOR BECAUSE REALLY IT IS CONNECTED TO THE BALLPARK AND THE MINDS OF GENERATIONS.

IT IS SAD IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE RAISED BUT THEY MADE IT CLEAR THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THERE WOULD BE INTEREST IN IT.

BUT CORDISH HAS A FANTASTIC TRACK RECORD BETWEEN THE KANSAS CITY POWER AND LIGHT AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN BALTIMORE.

>> AND BALLPARK VILLAGE.

>> BALLPARK VILLAGE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I..

IT'S GOOD FOR THEM TO HAVE THAT SPACE BE WELL DONE BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE BALLPARK VILLAGE AND IT SORT OF TIES THAT WHOLE AREA TOGETHER SO THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST BECAUSE OF BALLPARK VILLAGE TO MAKE THE MILLENNIUM SITE JUST AS WELL AND TIE IT INTO THE BALLPARK AND WHAT'S GOING ON DOWNTOWN.

I THINK IT WAS A GOOD CHOICE OF COMPANIES.

THE .. PUDDING, BUT I THINK IT WAS A GOOD CHOICE OF A COMPANY, AND THEY ARE DOWN THERE, THEY ARE ALREADY INVESTED IN THAT AREA, WHICH TO ME GIVES ADDED INCENTIVE.

>.. CARDINALS MIGHT BE TOO INVOLVED IN IT?

THEY PICKED THIS COMPANY BECAUSE IT'S A CARDINALS COMPANY.

NOW I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER BID MAKERS.

DID IT CITY IN THE S.. OTHERS WERE?

>> IT MENTIONED ONE.

AND THEY SEEMED TO WANT KIND OF A HUGE BEER HALL OUT THERE.

>> WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?

>> I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING IS WRONG WITH THAT, ALVIN.

>> WOULDN'T THE CARDINALS HAVE A VESTED INTEREST?

>> DON'T THEY ALSO HAVE A VE.. INTEREST IN THEIR ROSTER?

>> NO, THEY SEEM OKAY WITH THAT.

THEY DEPARTMENT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO.

>> SO TO SPARK OTHER ACTIVITY DOWNTOWN AS EVERYONE SAYS IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE ARE TEARING DOWN THE MILLENNIUM HOTEL AND IT WILL BE HOWEVER MANY YEARS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY SEE THE FINISHED PRODUCT.

BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING, NOW DO I NOW GO DOWN THERE AND SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO INVEST IN THIS EXCHANGE.

>> I DO.

I ABSOLUTELY DO.

AND WE ALL HAD DINNER AT THAT RESTAURANT THAT WOULD GO AROUND AND AROUND.

DIDN'T LITERALLY, BUT THOSE WERE GREAT MEMORIES.

BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF TIEING ALL OF THE ANCHORS DOWNTOWN TO EACH OTHER, IT WILL MAKE IT MORE APPEALING.

>..

ENTERING ST. LOUIS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE SKYLINE HAS A TREE GROWING OUT OF THE TOP OF THE HOLE LIKE AN OLD BATHROOM.

YOU WANT TO FIX IT UP.

>> THE TREE IS BAD BUT I WILL SAY THIS, WE CAME BACK FROM A BALLGAME AND COMING ACROSS THE BRIDGE.

THE KIDS WERE FROM ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY AND SAID THAT'S IMPRESSIVE.

I'VE A..

IT DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE IMPROVED UPON.

HEY, AND CHARLIE BRENNAN, WE HAVE A COUPLE ASSIGNMENTS FOR YOU WHILE YOU ARE GONE, ONE, COME UP WITH $250,000 FOR AN MONEY AND ADOPT A PUPPY.

>> AND THEY WAIVED THEIR FEES.

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