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IT'S A SUPER WEEK.

WE'VE GOT A SUPER SHOW COMING YOUR WAY.

BUT FIRST LET'S MEET OUR PANELISTS STARTING WITH THE MEDIA VETERAN HERSELF, WENDY WIESE, BILL MCCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH, ALSO FROM THE POST AND STL .. JOE HOLLEMAN AND FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, ALVIN REID.

BEFORE WE BEGIN WE WANT TO THANK LOCAL ARTIST TAYLOR MARIE FOR SHARING HER ARTWORK WITH US.

WE HAVE A ROTATING EXHIBIT OTOTHOTOTHE MANTEL.

AND YOU CAN FOLLOW HER ON INSTAGRAM AT TAIL X MARIE.

>> I'M NOT ON INSTAGRAM YET.

I HAVE TO DO THAT ONE OF THESE DAYS.

>> I'M GOING TO .. AND JOIN THE 21st CENTURY.

I WILL ASK YOU ABOUT OUR BOARD OF ALDERMEN IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS WITH A LITTLE HISTORY FIRST.

IT WAS IN NOVEMBER O.. ST. LOUIS AND THE COUNTY AND THE REGIONAL SPORTS AUTHORITY REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE RAMS AND STAN KROENKE AND THE NFL.

AND TH.. A RESULT OF THAT LAWSUIT.

IT WAS DIVIDED UP IN NOVEMBER OF 2022.

PEOPLE F.. YEARS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW TO SPEND IT.

CERTAINLY ON THIS SHOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT.

LAST THURSDAY, IT WAS ANNOUNCED BY SARAH THAT IT WOULD BE DECIDED LAST FRIDAY, BECAUSE THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN WAS FINALLY MEETING AFTER ALL OF THESE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS AND DISCUSSIONS.

WHAT A.. NOW ALMOST $300 MILLION?

THAT MEETING JUST WENT BUST.

THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN HALTED IT.

SHE ACCUSED ONE OF HER COLLEAGUES OF BEING DRUNK, AND THEY RECONVENED TUESDAY MORNING, AND GUESS WHAT?

FILL IN THE BLANKS, ALVIN.

WHAT HAPPENED ON TUESDAY?

>> IT GOT PUSHED BEYOND THE UPCOMING MAYORAL ELECTION, WHICH TAKES IT TO SPRING.

WHO KNOWS WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.

ON THE WAY TO THE STUDIO TONIGHT, TWO LANES COMING NORTH ON GRAND.

TO THE CITY DEPARTMENT WORKER IN THE TRUCK WHO PULLED OVER IN FRONT OF THE SECOND LANE WHERE THOSE OF US WHO COULD NOT GET BY WITH THE LIGHT ON, THINKING WHAT IS THIS GUY DOING, AND HONKED MY HORN AS I WENT BY HIM.

A WATER MAIN HAD BROKEN, AND IT WAS LIKE WILL COLORADO RIVER GOING DOWN THE VIADUCT AREA.

I FELT BAD AFTER I HONKED MY HORN.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE WATER PROBLEMS THAT WE NEED FIXED.

>> HOW MUCH MONEY DID THEY ASSIGN?

HO.. >> I'M GETTING THERE, CHARLIE.

THUS, HERE WAS A CHANCE.

THE ORIGINAL PLAN, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR FAVORED ONE, GREATER ST. LOUIS INC., AND DOWNTOWN FOLKS FAVORED ANOTHER.

THEY GOT TOGETHER, CAME WITH A COMPROMISE AND STOOD TOGETHER IN CITY HALL AND SAID WE HAVE A COMPROMISED TRANSFORM ACT, AND THE BOARD FLUSHED THAT DOWN THE PROVERBIAL TOILET ON FRIDAY AND BACKED IT UP ON TUESDAY.

LISTEN.

IF WE REALLY W.. WHATEVER CITY, YOU REALLY PUT US ON THE HIGHWAY TO THAT THIS TIME.

EVERYONE DOWN THERE SHOULD BE ASHAMED.

THE DEAL WAS..

THE DEAL WAS DONE.

IT JUST GOT MORE.

>> JUST TO UNDERLINE IT, NOTHING HAPPENED ON TUESDAY, NOT A PENNY OF THE SETTLEMENT HAS BEEN SPENT.

&g.. SAID.

ASHAMED OF OURSELVES, THAT WE DID HAVE IT -- HE'S ON HIS WAY OUT -- THAT WE HAD A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY AND THAT WE BLEW IT.

WHAT'S SO SURPRISING, SARAH WAS SAYING LAST WEEK THAT PAM BOYD WAS DROPPING THE BREAD CRUMBS OR COOKIE CRUMBS.

WHEN EVERYBODY ELSE WAS CELEBRATING PREEMPTIVELY THE SUCCESS OF A COMPROMISE, TURNS OUT SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THAT IT WAS PREMATURE.

BUT TO SAY -- I WOULD RATHER HAVE THEM WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION AND PUT THE 40 MILLION TOWARD THE WATER PROJECTS, 140 MILLION.

>> 40.

>> 40.

>> WHA.. >> 290 IS THE BIG POT.

>> THE 40 AT LEAST IS SOMETHING.

IT IS VERY DISAPPOINTING THAT WE AT LEAST DIDN'T DO THAT, BUT TO SAY AT LEAST WE CAN GIVE IT THE OLD COLLEGE TRY AND REGROUP, IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT IN TWO YEARS, WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE?

>> YOU WERE THERE.

>> I WAS THERE FOR T.. MEETING.

WHAT WE SAW WAS WAS POLITICAL GAMES AND EXPERTLY PLAYED ON ONE SIDE BY ALDERMEN REJEA ALDRIDGE WHO TOOK WHAT WAS A LOGICAL COMMON SENSE SOLUTION PROPOSED BY ALDERMEN ANNE SCHWEITZER THAT SAID FOR ALL OF THIS TALK, EVERY PROPOSAL OUT THERE SEEMS TO HAVE $40 MILLION FOR THE WATER DEPARTMENT.

LET'.. LET'S SEND THAT TO THEM.

AND WE CAN COME BACK AND ARGUE AGAIN ABOUT THE OTHER 250 MILLION, BUT LET'S GET THE WATER DEPARTMENT SOME MONEY, BUT THAT WAS NOT THE GAME THAT BOTH SIDES WANTED TO PLAY, SO IT ENDED UP GETTING AND THERE BY THEY DID NOTHING.

AT SOME POINT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SEND MONEY TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT, AND IT SHOULD GROW.

IT SHOULD BE BIGGER THAN 40 MILLION.

>>..

DOESN'T MEGAN GREEN GET MOST OF THE BLAME?

THERE WAS A DE.. BEFORE THEY COULD AGREE ON IT, MEGAN GREEN STARTED FIDDLING.

>> I THINK IT'S THE ALDERMEN, AND I THINK IT'S THE MAYOR.

THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO HAVE A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE THE APRIL 2025 ELECTIONS SO EVERYONE COULD BE SEEN AS HEROES.

THEY DRAGGED THEIR FEET FOR THREE YEARS, AND THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.

TH..

ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, AND THEY ELIMINATED WHATEVER THE PEOPLE WANTED.

TH.. EMPLOYEES AND WATER MAINS, AND THEY DIDN'T LISTEN TO ANY OF THAT.

AND TH..

BENEFIT, BECAUSE SHE MAY NOT BE THE MAYOR WHEN THIS MONEY IS ACTUALLY DEALT.

>> I THINK THIS RAISES A HUGE FLAG FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE FLAGS RAISED WHEN IT CAME TO MEGAN GREEN IN THE PAST.

AT THIS JUNCTURE, YOU DON'T THROW A HISSY AND WALK OUT AND THEN ACCUSE ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES OF BEING DRUNK ON SOCIAL MEDIA SO THAT YOU HAVE TO WALK BACK SO THAT LAWSUITS ARE THREATENED.

THE WHOL..

THIS IS A MAJOR METROPOLITAN -- WE WERE A MAJOR METROPOLITAN.

>> WE REDID YOU SAID THE SIZE OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN FROM 28 TO 14, AND WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT AND WORK MORE EFFECTIVELY.

IT'S.. >> THAT'S STILL A GOOD IDEA.

I THINK WHAT HAPPENED THIS TIME WAS A KEY FAILURE ON MAYBE A FEW ALDERMEN'S PARTS.

THE SIDES WOULD BE SO FAR APART.

THAT'S WHY IT'S SO RATHER DISGUSTING BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE FOR ALL THIS TURMOIL.

THIS COU.. WHAT'S THE SAYING?

DOING SOMETHING BAD IS NOT AS BAD AS NOT DOING ANYTHING AT ALL.

>> IS IT POSSIBLE THAT BILL, THE ALDERMEN GOT COLD FEET BECAUSE THE MAN WHO HAS INDICTED AND ACTUALLY CONVICTED THREE OF THEIR COLLEAGUES.

AND HAL GOAL SMITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR THE EASTERN DISTINCT DISTRICT OF MISSOURI IS THE WHITE COLLAR PROSECUTOR, THE PUBLIC CORRUPTION ATTORNEY WHO LOOKS FOR PROBLEMS, HE WAS SEATED FOR SOME REASON IN THE AWEDDIANS WATCHING THE PROCEEDINGS.

AND WHEN MARK MAXWELL SA.. ARE YOU DOING HERE?

I'M BORED.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?

I CAN'T COMMENT.

THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN ARE THINKING I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH THAT GUY SITTING THERE.

>> HAL GOLDSMITH IS NOT KNOWN FOR GREAT HUMOR.

HAL GOLDSMITH IS KNOWN FOR -- YOU KNOW I DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

HE'S NOT A JOVIAL WELL MET SORT OF FEL FELLOW.

IT'S ODD THAT THE PROSECUTOR WOULD BE HERE, BECAUSE I WOULD THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO PROSECUTE THESE PEOPLE, YOU WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY THEY DON'T KNOW SITTING THERE TAKING NOTES AND ONE OF HAL'S ASSISTANTS OR SOMETHING.

I FOUND IT ODD THAT A HIGH PROFILE LIKE HAL GOLDSMITH WOULD BE THERE.

BUT IT WOULD GIVE ME THE CHILLS IF I WERE AN ALDERMEN.

>> I HAVE, OVER THE YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN AT THE POST COVERED THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN ON AND OFF A NUMBER OF TIMES.

THEY DON'T NEED THE PRESENCE OF HAL GOLDSMITH TO ACT I WILL LOGICALLY.

THEY.. CHAMBER.

I'M NOT SAYING..

THERE THAT THEY WOULD DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE FOR THE CITY.

.. ALL BY THEIR LONESOME.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS THEATER.

I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT.

>> YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME CONTESTED RACES IN THE FIRST AND THIRD AND FIFTH AND SEVENTH OR NINTH, SO GOLDSMITH IS SITTING THERE.

YOU REMEMBER THE PUBLIC.

WHAT ARE THE OPTICS?

THERE'S TROUBLE HERE IN DENMARK.

>> WAIT A MINUTE.

THE F.B.I.

DIRECTOR CAN COME SIT IN HERE AND WATCH THE SHOW.

I'M NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL BECAUSE WHY DO I CARE THIS PERSON IS SITTING THERE.

>> IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, WHAT ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT?

>> THEY CAN INDICT YOU FOR EATING A HAM SANDWICH.

>> THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF YOU WANTED TO IMPRESS A FEDERAL PROSECUTOR, DO THE ONE THING THAT MADE IMMINENT GOOD GOVERNMENT SENSE.

SEND $40 MILLION FOR THE WATER DEPARTMENT.

>> HERE'S A GUY THAT ADMITS -- HE TOL-THATHE ACTUALLY READS FINANCE CAMPAIGN REPORTS OF LOCAL CANDIDATES AND SEES THAT THEY GET CONTRACTS.

>> THE MAN IS DOING HIS JOB?

>> I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WRONG.

I'M SAYING THAT HOW HE'S OVERLOOKING PEOPLE LIKE LEWIS REID, JEFFREY BOYD AND BRANDON BOSSILY.

>> MIGHT BE A CONCERNED AMER.. CITIZEN.

>> GIVE ME A B..

THERE'S NO SUCH THING.

>> YES, THERE IS.

>> NAME ONE OTHER.

>> THE NEW TOM SULLIVAN.

>> MAKING IT SOUND LIKE HE'S ACTUALLY DOING THIS.

HIS STAFF IS.

>> YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

>> HE WAS THERE HIMSELF.

>> THERE WAS ALSO THE POSSIBILITY THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE THE BEST FREE SHOW IN THE CITY.

>> SARAH SAID.

>> JOE, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A CONTRACT THAT WAS JUST GIVEN -- ACTUALLY THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT GIVING A CONTRACT FOR DIGITAL LITERACY TRAINING, 800,000 FEDERAL DOLLARS, TO A COMPANY THAT HAS NEVER DONE DIGITAL LITERACY TRAINING.

AT THE SAME TIME THERE'S A REPORT OUT OF ST. LOUIS MAGAZINE THAT FOLLOWS UP ON ONE ARNOLD BRITT.

HE WAS THE FIREFIGHTER THAT YOU WROTE 10 TIMES ABOUT.

HE'S THE GUY THAT RESPONDED TO AN ACCIDENT AND ACTUALLY STOLE A CREDIT CARD OF ONE OF THE ACCIDENT VICTIMS AND USED IT NUMEROUS TIMES.

HE WAS CONVICTED, AND NOW HE'S WORKING FOR THE CITY'S BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

>>..

UNDERSTAND THAT -- AND SINCE WE ALL TO SOME EXTENT OR ANOTHER BELIEVE IN THE CHURCH OF SECOND CHANCES, I'M NOT SAYING THAT MR. BRITT SHO ULD NEVER HAVE A JOB OR I'M NOT SAYING THAT MR. RAY WON'T DO A FINE JOB OF WHAT HE'S DOING.

THE BIGGER ISSUE HERE IS THAT APPARENTLY POLITICS, CITY POLITICS SPECIFICALLY, CAN'T GET PAST POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS TO SEE HOW THINGS LOOK TO THE AVERAGE CITIZEN WHEN THE PERSON WITH NO EXPERIENCE ALSO HAS THESE POLITICAL CONNECTIONS, WHERE A PERSON WHO PLEADED GUILTY TO STEALING MONEY FROM AN ACCIDENT VICTIM IN WHICH NUMEROUS PEOPLE WERE KILLED, THEN YOU HIRE HIM INTO THE BUILDING DIVISION, WHICH IS ALREADY UNDER FIRE.

THE OPTICS OF THAT, WHEN YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT OPTICS, THE OPTICS OF THAT ARE HORRIBLE.

IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF MR. RAY OR MR. BRITT.

IT'S WHAT IS THE CITY THINKING WHEN THEY DO THESE SORT OF THINGS.

DO T..

THINKS ABOUT THEIR CREDIBILITY?

>> BRITT, IN MY OPINION, HE'S IN A LAND BY HIMSELF.

HE'S AN OUTLIER.

THAT IS GRAVE ROBBING.

THAT SHOULD HAVE SET OFF BELLS, WHISTLES.

I'M LIKE YOU.

HE'S ENTITLED TO GET A JOB.

BUT FOR THE CITY?

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL.

&g.. >> AND THE BUILDING -- I MEAN, JOE SAID THEY HAVE GOT THEIR OWN PROBLEMS.

>> GO AHEAD, B.. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY PEOPLE COULD TOLERATE ALL THIS CORRUPTION HAVING GROWN UP IN CHICAGO.

PEOPLE CAN TOLERATE THIS AS LONG AS THE CITY WORKS.

IF EVERYTHING IS GETTING DONE ON TIME, PEOPLE LOOK AT THESE HIRES, AND THEY KIND OF CHUCKLE, BUT THIS CITY IS NOT WORKING WELL.

SO EVERYTHING IS MAGNIFIED.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING BASICALLY YOU DID, WENDY.

THIS GUY IS TOXIC.

THE DIGITAL TRAINING, I GUESS IF YOU READ THROUGH THE STORY THAT THIS GENTLEMAN HAD DONE SOME THINGS FOR A BETTER FAMILY LIFE, AND HE HAD ACCOMPLISHED SOME DIGITAL TRAINING.

WAS HE THE BEST PERSON ON THE BID AND ALL OF THAT?

I DON'T KNOW.

THERE WAS SOME REMNANT OF MAYBE HE QUALIFIED WHAT THE CONTRACT WAS FOR, BUT BRITT, THE FIREFIGHTER, IF I OWNED A BUSINESS AND THIS GENTLEMAN CAME IN TO INSPECT SOMETHING IN MY BUSINESS, MY FIRST INCLINATION WOULD BE TO WELCOME HIM SO HE DIDN'T FAIL ME, BUT I KEEP THINKING, YOU NEED TO GET OUT.

>> HOW ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT?

THEY ARE ALREADY, AS WE SAID, UNDER FIRE, UNDER INVESTIGATION.

>> THAT'S ANOTHER.

>> DO THEY KNOW THEY ARE GOING DOWN AND THIS IS ANOTHER WAY TO GET HIM.

>> TO UNDERSCORE BILL'S POINT, TOO, AND I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, THAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM WITH THE BILL FOR THE RAMS MONEY.

EVERYBODY AGREED IT WAS NORTH SIDE, WHICH HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY IGNORED, DESERVES SOME MONEY.

DOWNTOWN DESERVES SOME MONEY, THE WATER DEPARTMENT.

BUT THEN IT'S COLLEGE PROGRAMS.

THEN IT'S CHILD CARE.

PEOPLE ARE GOING THE CITY CAN'T DO THE BASICS, OKAY?

YOU'RE NOT PICKING UP THE GARBAGE AND NOT FIXING THE STREETS AND NOW ESPECIALLY YOU ARE NOT GETTING THE SNOW PLOWED AND NOT EVEN HOLDING THE DIRECTOR OF THE STREETS DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBLE.

WHY DO I THINK THAT YOU ARE GOOD FOSTERS OF COLLEGE EDUCATION AND DAY CARE WHEN YOU CAN'T DO THE BASIC THINGS?

WHEN PEOPLE BUY IN TO THE PROGRESSIVE MODEL, THEY ARE NOT SAYING GIVE UP THE BASICS.

>> THAT'S WHAT BILL WAS SAYING ABOUT MAYOR JONES AND HER TRAVEL EXPENSES AND ALL OF THAT.

IF THE CITY IS RUNNING SEAMLESSLY, IF THE STREETS ARE CLEARED AND GARBAGE IS PICKED UP, THAT'S ONE THING.

PEOPLE DON'T CARE AS MUCH.

YOU ADD IT ALL UP, AND THERE'S THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT.

>> BILL, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT TAXES.

THERE'S A BILL.. TO LOWER THE INCOME TAX, CLOSE TO 4 OR 5% FOR THE HIGHEST MARGINAL TAX RATE.

THERE'S A PROPOSAL, BRING IT DOWN TO ZERO, LIKE SOME OTHER STATES THAT INCLUDE TENNESSEE, WASHINGTON, FLORIDA, TEXAS.

BUT TO MAKE IT REVENUE NEUTRAL, SO THE STATE ISN'T LOSING MONEY, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT RAISING TAXES ON SERVICES LIKE LEGAL FEES, REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS, DRY CLEANING, HAIRCUTS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS.

THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS MONEY.

MY SON LIVES IN TEXAS, AND THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE INCOME TAX, BUT THEN THEY HAVE HIGHER REAL ESTATE TAXES.

YOU HAVE TO GET THE MONEY.

FOR THE GOVERNOR, HE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO SAY I'M THE MAN WHO STOPPED INCOME TAX.

YES, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE TO GET THE MONEY, AND INCOME TAX AT LEAST YOU'RE TAKING IT FROM PEOPLE WHO HAD SOME MONEY.

WHEN YOU HAVE A SALES TAX, TAX ON GOODS AND SERVICES, EVEN THE POOR PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR IT.

DO AWAY WITH THE STATE INCOME TAX.

>..

HE'S ALREADY -- HE'S THE MAN WHO FIGHTS FOR IT.

SO I THINK IN THIS AGE OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS WHERE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE ALL SORTS OF COURT CHALLENGES, BUT YOU'VE GOT THE INITIAL PR BUMP.

SADLY, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THE SAUSAGE BEING MADE, IF YOU WILL.

>> BILL EIGEL WANTS TO CUT PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

BUT HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT UP?

>> SOME STATES ARE 30.

OUR CIGARETTE TAX IS QUITE LOW.

OUR GASOLINE TAX IS QUITE LOW.

I THINK IT'S LOW HANGING FRUIT IF YOU WANT TO RAISE SOME MONEY.

>> I AGREE.

THIS IDEA WON'T FLY BECAUSE OF THAT REAL ESTATE INCREASE ON THE TRANSACTION, BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE -- THAT'S BEYOND US AS FAR AS BUYING PIECES OF LAND AND PROPERTY THAT COSTS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

THOSE PEOPLE.. HAND AND SAY NO, YOU HAVE GOT TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE TO GET THAT MONEY.

THAT'S WHAT WILL SINK THIS PLAN.

AS THE HAVE SAID, IT'S GOING TO COME FROM SOM SOMEPLACE.

>> YOU CAN'T THROW A HOLE IN THE BUDGET.

>> THE T.. STATE INCOME TAX BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL MOVE, AND THEY WILL MOVE TO TEXAS OR TENNESSEE OR FLORIDA, BUT YOU CAN'T MOVE PROPERTY.

SO YOU INCREASE THE PROPERTY TAX, AND YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET AT LEAST RICH PEOPLE MOVE INTO YOUR STATE.

WE KNOW, ALVIN, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SPEND 6 MONTHS AND A DAY IN FLORIDA BECAUSE THERE'S NO STATE INCOME TAX AND THERE'S NO TAX ON YOUR PENSION, YOUR DISTRIBUTION FROM YOUR 401K.

>> THERE'S AN OCEAN .. 75 DEGREES EVERY DAY, TOO.

>> I HAVE A NOVEL IDEA AS TO WHERE YOU COULD MAKE THESE TAX CUTS WORK IF YOU THEN ALSO CUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING.

THEN YOU WOULDN'T NEED SO MUCH.

BUT THEY DON'T SEEM TO WANT TO DO THAT.

WHAT THEY DO IS JUST.. TAXES AROUND.

>> IT'S JUST A SHELL GAME.

>> CUT SPENDING, AND THEN YOU DON'T NEED THE HIGHER TAXES.

>> AND THEY HAVE MONEY TO KEEP THE ROYALS AND THE CHIEFS IN MISSOURI.

HE'S OUT STUMP.. >> A COUPLE MORE TOPICS BEFORE WE BREAK FOR THIS WEEK AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S LAST CALL.

I WANT TO ASK YOU, ALVIN, WHEN YOU GO AROUND TOWN, DO YOU SEE A LOT OF CHIEFS FANS GETTING READY FOR SUNDAY'S GAME?

>> YEAH, ESPECIALLY TWO WEEKS AGO FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME, EVERYWHERE YOU WENT CHIEFS STUFF.

RESTAURANTS, EVEN HERE, ARE BRACING FOR ALL THE CARRY OUSTS AND WINGS.

IT'S A R.. THAT RED WAVE ACROSS THE STATE.

>> BUT CONSIDERING THE CHIEFS OWNER VOTED TO MOVE OUR NFL FRANCHISE TO LA, ISN'T THAT LIKE A MODERN VERSION OF STOCKHOLM SYNDROME.

>.. THAT PEOPLE VOTED FOR THE PERSON THAT'S DOING THAT ARE IN DIRECT OPPOSITION TO WHAT NEED BE DONE LIKE MAYBE HERE IN MISSOURI.

SAME THING.

YEAH, HE VOTED THAT WAY, B.. LOVE THE CHIEFS.

>> PEOPLE LOVE FOOTBALL.

>> THAT'S A BETTER WAY OF PUTTING IT.

>> PEOPLE LOVE FOOTBALL.

THE NFL IS THE DEATH STAR.

IT WILL ALWAYS BE THE DEATH STAR.

IT GOBBLES.. WHO IS A FRIEND OF MINE, HE THE CTE AND HE SAID ENJOY YOUR SUPER BOWL.

WE K.. STUFF, BUT MAN, WE LOVE FOOTBALL.

>>.. TOO, ON SUPER SUNDAY.

THE CEO NAMED BRENDAN WENTWORTH.

>> HE'S A MARINE.

>> HARVARD MBA, TOO.

IS HE A SMART GUY?

I DON'T KNOW.

HE WANTS TO TURN THE..

DOMESTIC BEER INTO AMERICAN BEER.

INSTEAD .. BUSCH LIGHT, MICHELOB DOMESTIC, HE WILL CALL IT AMERICAN.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I THINK THEY LOST A CA CASA CAT A CLIS MICK SHARE OF THE MARKET, AND MULVANEY, AND PEOPLE AREN'T COMING BACK.

THERE'S A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN, AND I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT A MILLION YEARS THAT TARGET OUT OF MINNESOTA WOULD RESCIND ITS DEI POLICY, BUT THEY HAVE.

THERE'S A BIG LAWSUIT INVOLVED.

IT'S -- POLITICS MAKES STRANGE BED FELLAS, AND THEY ARE PANDERING, TRYING TO GET THE MARKET SHARE BACK, BUT IT'S THE AMERICAN WAY.

IT'S BUSINESS.

>> IT'S SHAMEFUL.

AND COSTCO, JP MORGAN CHASE SAID NO, WE ARE NOT BACKING OFF THE DEI PLAN.

AND .. DO.

BEER NOW BECAUSE YOU SAY IT'S AMERICAN INSTEAD OF DOMESTIC.

>> DROPPING DOMESTIC FROM BEER MAY SOUND LIKE IF YOU BEAT YOUR WIFE YOU'RE GOING TO BE CHARGED WITH AMERICAN ABUSE.

NO MORE DOMESTIC ABUSE.

DOMESTIC IS A WORD THAT'S GONE.

>> PARDON ME FOR BEING SLIGHTLY PATRIOTIC, WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE WORD AMERICAN?

>> TIMING, THE TIMING.

>> I DON'T GET WHAT THE BIG DEAL IS ABOUT.

THE CHARGE THAT WE ARE PANDERING, IT'S ADVERTISING.

ADVERTISING IS PANDERING.

THE IDEA WE ARE GOING TO CALL IT AMERICAN BEER, WELL, YOUR MARKET SHARE IS DWINDLING, YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING.

SO IT'S GOOD BUSINESS.

THIS IDEA THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE OFFENDED BY IT BEING CALLED DOMESTIC OR AMERICAN, I'M NOT.

>> FRANKLY WHEN SOMEBODY IS ON VACATION, AND THEY ARE SITTING NEXT TO THE GULF OF AMERICA AND THEY WANT TO HAVE A BEER, THEN WHY NOT HAVE AN AMERICAN BEER.

>> I'M GOING TO KEEP CALLING IT THE GULF OF MEXICO, OKAY?

>> THE WORD AMERICAN IS NOW BEING USED TO SAY, OKAY, I'M GOING TO DISCRIMINATE, I'M GOING TO DO THIS, I'M GOING TO DO THAT.

..

THIS IS AMERICA.

LET'S JUST WATCH WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH THIS.

IT'S ALL GOOD IF WE CALL IT AMERICAN.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

>> IF AMERICA HAS GOOD CRAP BEER OR GOOD BEER, YOU'VE GOT TO FLAUNT IT.

>> WE ARE NOT SAYING.

>> WE HAVE USED A VARIETY OF EMOTIONS TO SELL A VARIETY OF PRODUCTS OVER THE YEAR, AND IT'S ALL PANDERING.

>> IS IT B BA MAJORITY TIFF IF IT'S MISSOURI WINE?

DOES IT TASTE GOOD?

THEN I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU CALL IT.

>.. CALIFORNIA OR MISSOURI OR OREGON, AND SOMEBODY SAYS I WANT A DOMESTIC WINE, I DON'T THINK TO MYSELF, THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

>> ON THAT NOTE, WE ARE GOING TO GO TO THE OLD MAILBAG AND SEE WHAT PEOPLE HAD TO SAY ABOUT LAST WEEK'S SHOW.

REGARDING THE FRONT YARD RAISED GARDEN IN SHREWSBURY CAN I PROHIBIT TRAMPOLINES AND UGLY SHUTTERS?

THAN.. WE HEARD FROM JENNI THE TREE HUGGER, SUGGESTING SHREWSBURY RESIDENTS CUT DOWN TREES TO REMOVE THEIR GARDEN.

IF THE ADJACENT ACROSS THE STREET NEIGHBORS SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT ACKNOWLEDGING THEIR SUPPORT, LET THEM GARDEN.

THAT FROM KEVIN WALTERS OF ST. CHARLES.

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