>>> WELL, NOW, AFTER A SLEW OF MULTI MILLION TECH DEALS, PRESIDENT TRUMP MAY HAVE OPENED UP THE DOOR FOR THE GULF TO BECOME THE NEXT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE HOTSPOT.

YEARS AGO, OUR NEXT GUEST LAID OUT THE IDEA OF A TECHNO-POLAR WORLD.

PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER OF THE EURASIA GROUP IN BREMMER DISCUSSES HOW TRUMP'S TRIP TO THE MIDDLE EAST COULD BE TAKING US CLOSER TO THAT VISION.

>> THANK YOU.

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>> WE TALKED ABOUT GLOBAL RECESSION, MEANING THAT OUR INSTITUTIONS THESE DAYS ARE NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE WORLD.

DONALD TRUMP HAS DONE THAT TOUR OF THE MIDDLE EAST, ESPECIALLY THE PERSIAN GULF, AND THEN A VERY TRANSACTIONAL TYPE OF FOREIGN POLICY IN LISTING ALL OF THE PERSIAN GULF INTO SORT OF AN ECONOMIC ORBIT WITH THE UNITED STATES.

HOW BIG OF A TECTONIC CHANGE MIGHT THAT BE?

>> I THINK IT IS AN INCREMENTAL CHEF.

LET'S KEEP IN MIND WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS PRESENT FIRST TIME AROUND, HIS FIRST TRIP WAS ALSO TO THE GULF.

HE WENT TO SAUDI ARABIA.

YOU REMEMBER ALL THOSE LEADERS COLLECTED AND GRABBED THE ORB TOGETHER.

THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT COUNTERTERRORISM.

COUNTERINSURGENCY.

NOT AS MANY DEALS GOT DONE.

THIS TIME AROUND, YOU ARE RIGHT.

TRUMP HAD A LOT MORE CEOs.

SOME OF THE ROAD'S BIGGEST CEOs INTEL WITH HIM THAT SHIP.

THIS TIME AROUND, HE DIDN'T GO TO ISRAEL.

AND THERE IS A LOT MORE TENSION BETWEEN HIM AND PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU, SPECIALLY ON THE BACK OF SOME OF THE DIPLOMACY THAT TRUMP IS TRYING TO GET DONE.

THE FACT REMAINS AS IN 2017, TRUMP'S BEST RELATION WITH THE LEADERS THAT HE HAS ON SPEED DIAL ARE WITH THE LEADERS WHO HAVE CONSOLIDATED A LOT OF POWER IN THE GULF STATES.

PARTICULARLY, SAUDI ARABIA AND THE UAE.

THE SOLUTIONS ARE ONLY GETTING STRONGER.

ONLY GETTING DEEPER.

IF YOU WILL, MORE STRATEGICALLY TRANSACTIONAL WITH TRUMP HIMSELF.

WITH UNITED STATES.

AND WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

>> AND HOW DOES THAT PLAY OFF AGAINST CHINA?

SOME OF THE GULF STATES HAD BEEN GETTING CLOSER TO CHINA.

IS THIS SORT OF A REBALANCING THE WAY KISSINGER AND NIXON MAY HAVE DONE AGAINST RUSSIA AND CHINA?

>> OF COURSE, THESE ARE OIL PRODUCERS AND THE UNITED STATES IS NOT TAKING ANY OIL FROM THE MIDDLE EAST OF NOTE.

THAT IS OVERWHELMINGLY GOING TO CHINA AND WILL CONTINUE TO GO TO CHINA.

SO THOSE COMMERCIAL INTERESTS AREN'T GOING AWAY.

AND THE CHINESE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO A LOT OF INVESTMENT ON THE GROUND IN THOSE COUNTRIES.

BUT , WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT NATIONAL SECURITY, AND HERE NOT JUST IN THE TERMS OF THE U.S. MILITARY BASES AND THE SALES OF MATERIAL, BUT ALSO CRITICALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, THERE WE ARE SEEING A REAL DECISION.

THEY WANT TO WORK A.I.

WITH THE UNITED STATES AND ITS CORPORATIONS, AND THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THE CHINESE OUT OF THEIR SYSTEM.

AND THERE IS A LOT OF PRESSURE AND A LOT OF EFFORT TO DO THE SAME WITH THE SAUDIS AND OTHER MAJOR GULF STATES.

I THINK THAT IS A SHIFT AS WE THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE GULF.

YES.

>> BUT IS THERE SOME DANGER THAT ARE SENDING ADVANCED A.I., ADVANCED CHIPS AND ALL TO THE PERSIAN GULF THAT THEY COULD END UP IN CHINESE HANDS?

>> OF COURSE THERE IS.

THERE IS ALSO A DANGER THAT LONG-TERM THE UNITED STATES IS OFF SHORING THE PRODUCTION OF -- THAT COMES FROM THESE DATA CENTERS.

THE TRAINING THAT COMES FROM BEING SO RELIANT ON THE COMPUTER THAT WILL BE DRIVEN BY THE ENERGY THAT IS ABUNDANT AND CHEAP IN THIS REGION.

I MEAN, TRUMP SAYS HE WANTS ALL THIS TO BE INSHORED TO THE UNITED STATES.

HE WAS NOT HAPPY WITH APPLE WHEN THEY MOVED THEIR PRODUCTION TO INDIA AND THAT OF CHINA EVEN THOUGH INDIA IS MORE TRUSTED.

>> HOW DOES HE THEN JUSTIFY OUTSHORING THE A.I.

STUFF TO THE PERSIAN GULF STATES?

>> YOU ARE RIGHT.

IT IS INCONSISTENT.

THERE IS A GREAT ASYMMETRY IN THE SIZE OF THE ECONOMIES AND THE FACT UNITED STATES PROVIDES ALL THIS MILITARY SUPPORT.

HOPEFULLY, THERE WILL ALSO BE SOME GUARDRAILS IN WHATEVER TRUMP DOES TO REPLACE THE DIFFUSION ROLE ON A.I.

AND SEMICONDUCTORS THAT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAD PUT IN PLACE.

I THINK WHAT TRUMP IS TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER OUR ROLES THAT SAY THAT MOST OF THE SALES THAT COME OUT OF THESE CENTERS IN THE GULF WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE UNITED STATES.

MOST OF THAT DATA IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE WITH AMERICAN COMPANIES, AND ONLY A SMALL PERCENTAGE CAN GO TO ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

SAY 7% AS THE MAX.

THAT IS A QUANTITATIVE MEASURE I HAVE HEARD TALKED ABOUT.

BUT THEN YOU NEED PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE WITH CONFIDENCE TO FORMULATE AND IMPLEMENT WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE A MULTIAGENCY RULE.

AS WE KNOW FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THERE IS NOT A LOT OF TIME SPENT ON THE DETAILS OF HOW YOU GET POLICY ACTUALLY DONE.

SO HOW LONG THAT TAKES TO GET POLICY DONE AND HOW CAPABLE THE ACTUAL RULES WILL BE IS SOMETHING WE -- IT IS SOMETHING TO BE SEEN.

>> IT SEEMS TO ME, AND I THINK YOU HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT IT IN ONE OF YOUR LATEST PIECES, THE WORLD HAS SORT OF DIVIDED ON A.I.

BETWEEN MORE OPEN COUNTRIES AND MORE STATUS COUNTRY THAT TRY TO CENTRALIZE IT.

HOW DOES THE PERSIAN GULF COUNTRIES FIT INTO THAT?

>> WELL, YOU HAVE THE CHINESE WHO HAVE SHOWN THAT THEY ARE VERY CAPABLE, EVEN WITH CONSTRAINTS FROM THE U.S. ON SEMICONDUCTORS, THEY CAN BUILD SOME OF THE WORLD'S MOST ADVANCED MODELS IN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

AND THE STATE CONTROLS WHAT THOSE COMPANIES DO.

DETERMINES WHO THE WINNERS AND LOSERS ARE GOING TO BE AND HOW THEY DEPLOY THOSE ALGORITHMS AND WHO HAS ACCESS.

SO THE STATE REALLY CAPTURES THE CORPORATIONS.

IN THE UNITED STATES IT IS VERY DIFFERENT.

IN MANY WAYS, THE TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES ARE CAPTURING THE ESTATE.

THEY ARE WRITING THEIR OWN RULES.

THEY ARE DETERMINING HOW THEY WILL BE GOVERNED.

AND THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THAT ACCESS TO THE GOVERNMENT BUT THE CAPTURE REALLY COMES FROM THE TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES.

AS I SAID, IN THE PERSIAN GULF, THERE IS A DESIRE TO ALIGN WITH THOSE AMERICAN CORPORATIONS, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW ON A.I.

AND A LOT OF MONEY IS BEING SPENT AND A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING DEVELOPED TO FACILITATE THAT UNBALANCE.

THAT IS A WIN FOR THE TRUMP DEMONSTRATION AND THE UNITED STATES.

TWO QUESTIONS THAT IT RAISES.

FIRST OF ALL, TO WHAT EXTENT IF IT IS THE TECH COMPANIES AND THE GOVERNMENT THAT ARE WRITING THE RULES TO AMERICAN CITIZENS GET TAKEN CARE OF?

HOW DO YOU ENSURE YOU HAVE ROLES THAT WORK FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE PROFITABILITY OF THE MOST POWERFUL COMPANIES OF THE WORLD?

SECOND OF ALL, IS WHAT HAPPENS TO GOVERNMENTS THAT AREN'T PLAYING A DOMINANT ROLE IN A.I.

-- I MEAN, THERE'S ANOTHER BIG MODEL OUT THERE YOU DID NOT ASK A QUESTION ABOUT WHICH IS EUROPE.

AND IN EUROPE THE GOVERNMENT SUPERPOWER IS THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT.

BUT THAT ISN'T DRIVING THE CREATION OF ANY COMPANIES AT SCALE IN THE TECH SPACE.

AND SO DOES THE EU JUST LOSE EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE A MODEL THAT IN PRINCIPLE IS LOOKING OUT FOR RULE OF LAW AND IN PRINCIPLE IS LOOKING OUT FOR A MORE SUSTAINABLE SOCIETY?

RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY THE GULF STATES ARE LOOKING A LOT FASTER, MORE NIMBLE, OR SAVVY, IN ALIGNING WITH HOW THIS POWER IS CHANGING THEN THE EUROPEANS OR THE JAPANESE ARE.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENTOURAGE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP RIGHT WITH HIM TO THE MIDDLE EAST, IT IS ALL THE GREAT TECHNO BILLIONAIRES FROM ELON MUSK, SAM ALTMAN, ANDY CHANCEY OF AMAZON, JENSEN WONG, GOOGLE'S PRESIDENT, ALEX KARP, AND ABOUT 2000 OTHERS.

WHAT YOU MAKE OF THAT?

>> THIS IS THE COMMANDING HEIGHTS OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY.

THE U.S. IS INCREASINGLY DRIVING A MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL TECHNOLOGICAL COMPLEX.

THEY ARE IN A TECHNOLOGY COLD WAR WITH THE CHINESE.

ONE THAT THEY INTEND TO CAN CHANGE CHINA AND WIN.

AND THESE CORPORATIONS UNDERSTAND THAT AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT IS THE BEST WAY FOR THEM TO IN THE SHORT TERM TAKE CARE OF THEIR SHAREHOLDERS.

ARE THEY THINKING LONG-TERM?

ARE THEY MAKING DECISIONS THAT WILL POTENTIALLY UNDERMINE THEM WITH A FUTURE ADMINISTRATION?

MIGHT THEY BE SUBJECTS OF INVESTIGATIONS FOR SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT THEY ARE MAKING?

I THINK THEY NEED TO BE CAREFUL IN HOW CLOSE THEY FIGHT TO THE SUN.

FRANKLY, I THINK THEY MIGHT BE BETTER OFF MAKING FEWER HEADLINES AND BEING A LITTLE MORE HANDS OFF THE ADMINISTRATION THEN THEY HAVE BEEN.

AS I SAID, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING A LOT OF COMPANIES HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR A LONG TIME, DOING A LOT OF MORE OF IT EVEN THEN YOU MIGHT BE COMFORTABLE WITH FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE FROG IN THE BOILING POT.

YOU KNOW?

THE WATER IS GETTING WARMER BUT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH WARM WATER.

>> I WANT YOU TO READ SOMETHING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID IN A RATHER REMARKABLE SPEECH, THE SPEECH HE GAVE IN SAUDI ARABIA.

HE SAID, THE GREAT TRANSFORMATION HAS NOT COME FROM WESTERN INTERVENTIONISTS GIVING LECTURES ON HOW TO LIVE OR HOW TO GOVERN YOUR OWN AFFAIRS.

NO.

THE GLEAMING MARBLES WERE NOT CREATED BY NATION BUILDERS ARE NEOCONS OR LIBERAL NONPROFITS.

THE SO-CALLED NATION BUILDERS WRECK MORE NATION THEN THEY BUILD AND THE INTERVENTIONISTS WERE INTERVENING IN COMPLEX ASCITES THEY DID NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND.

DO YOU SEE THIS AS AN EMERGENT TRUMP DOCTRINE OR IS THAT JUST SOME RANDOM STATEMENTS?

>> HEY, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT APPLAUSE LINE FOR TRUMP.

IT SPOKE TO THE INCREDIBLE NATIONAL PRIDE OF THE SAUDI'S IN THE ROOM.

AND THERE WAS A LOT OF APPLAUSE.

AND I THINK THAT APPLAUSE WAS GENUINE.

THE UNITED STATES HISTORICALLY AS THE EXCEPTION LIST NATION FREQUENTLY BELIEVES IT HAS ALL THE ANSWERS FOR OTHER COUNTRIES, IRRESPECTIVE OF THE HYPOCRISY AND NOT ALWAYS LIVING UP TO THOSE THINGS AT HOME.

AND THE U.S. HAS MADE A LOT OF MISTAKES IN TRYING TO NATION BUILD IN OTHER COUNTRIES.

MOST DRAMATICALLY IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.

AND OF COURSE, BOTH OF THESE HAVE A LOT OF IMPACT ON AMERICAN ALLIES IN THE GULF.

BUT I WOULDN'T TAKE THAT TOO FAR.

I MEAN, THE REALITY IS WHEN THE SAUDI'S AND THE EMMA ROCKIES WERE TRYING TO BUILD A GLOBAL COUNTRIES THAT HAD ACCESS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD, THEY WERE BRINGING IN EXPERTISE FROM THE UNITED STATES.

NOT JUST CONSULTANTS BUT ENGINEERS.

CODERS AND PLANNERS.

BECAUSE THESE ARE SMALL COUNTRY THAT DIDN'T HAVE THAT EXPERTISE THEMSELVES.

I DO THINK UNITED STATES IS AT ITS BEST WHEN IT'S BEST FROM ITS FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD.

ALSO WHEN UNITED STATES HELPS EDUCATING THOSE COUNTRY.

I MEAN, THE SAUDI'S AND THE EMIRATIS ARE DOING VERY WELL BY CREATING FORGING PARTNERSHIPS WITH AMERICA'S BEST INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING.

WITH AMERICA'S BEST HOSPITALS.

WITH AMERICA'S BEST RESEARCH LABS.

BRINGING THOSE IN.

THAT IS NOT BECAUSE THE AMERICANS ARE ARROGANT.

THESE COUNTRIES RECOGNIZE THAT THE U.S. IS WORLD-CLASS THERE.

WHERE THE U.S. IS NOT WORLD- CLASS IS ITS POLITICAL LEADERSHIP LECTURING THEM ON HOW TO RUN THEIR COUNTRIES.

THAT IS A PLACE FOR THE AMERICANS NOT ONLY HAVE DONE A BAD JOB OUTSIDE THE U.S.

BUT FRANKLY HAVE DONE A BAD JOB FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICANS, AND WE SEE THE RESULTS OF THAT IN ELECTION AFTER ELECTION AFTER ELECTION.

>> THE OPENING POTENTIALLY TO SYRIA, IS THIS BEING DONE, DO YOU THINK, IN CONSULTATION WITH BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IN ISRAEL OR ARE THEY BEING SIDELINED?

>> I THINK THEY ARE BEING SIDELINED.

I THINK THAT TRUMP IS NOT PARTICULARLY HAPPY WITH THE ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER.

HE DOESN'T FEEL THAT HE IS INTERESTED IN LISTENING TO THE U.S. YOU SAW THAT ISRAEL AND NETANYAHU -- THAT WAS THE FIRST COUNTRY INVITED TO MEET WITH TRUMP AFTER LIBERATION DAY.

AND THAT WAS A GIFT BY THE AMERICANS AND NETANYAHU CAME OVER AND SAID HE WAS GOING TO ZERO OUT HIS TARIFFS.

HE WAS EXPECTING A DEAL FROM THE AMERICANS.

AND TRUMP SAID, NO.

YOU SHOULD BE REALLY THANKFUL.

WE GIVE YOU BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT.

BY THE WAY, WE ARE GOING TO START TALKING WITH THE IRANIANS AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT IT.

I THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THE SAME THING WITH THE DEAL CUT WITH WHO SEES THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE NO ATTACKS ON ISRAEL.

IT JUST INCLUDES NO ATTACKS ON AMERICAN SHIPS.

I THINK THIS IS TRUMP WAS BY FAR ISRAEL'S NUMBER ONE SUPPORTER GLOBALLY.

THAT REMAINS THE CASE TODAY.

HELPING THEM DEFEND THEMSELVES.

PROVIDING MASSIVE MILITARY AID.

HUGE AMOUNTS OF COVER TO CONTINUE THE WAR ON THE GROUND IN GAZA AND FRANKLY IN THE WEST BANK, TOO.

BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO COORDINATE WITH THEM THEIR BROADER MILITARY MOVES IN THE REGION.

IF YOU REMEMBER, WALTER, THREE MONTHS AGO EVERYONE WAS TALKING ABOUT DRAMATICALLY IS WILL TRUMP COME IN AND CUT THE DEAL THAT BRINGS THE SAUDIS INTO THE ABRAHAM ACCORDS, AND I WILL HELP THEM TO FACILITATE AN OPENING TO ISRAEL.

WELL, IT IS VERY CLEAR TO TRUMP THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.

SO HE HAS GIVEN UP ON THAT AND HE IS MOVED ONTO LET'S WORK WITH THE SAUDI'S.

WE WILL WORK FOR THE GULF STATES.

WE TRUST THEM.

THEY ARE VERY TRANSACTIONAL.

THEY WILL GIVE US LOTS OF MONEY, INCLUDING ME AND MY FAMILY DIRECTLY.

THAT IS THE WAY WE CAN CUT A DEAL WITH IRAN.

CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO COORDINATE OUR DIPLOMATIC APPROACH OR ECONOMIC APPROACH TO THE REGION WITH HIM.

THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

>> TRUMP'S FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE SO MANY DEALINGS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND SO MUCH MONEY COMING IN AND OUT.

DO YOU SEE THAT BECOMING AN ISSUE AND WHAT CORRUPTION BOTHERS YOU IN THAT?

>> I WISH I SAW IT BECOMING AN ISSUE.

I DON'T, WALTER.

I THINK THE REALITY IS THAT THE UNITED STATES FOR A VERY LONG TIME HAS BEEN THE MOST KLEPTOCRATIC, THE MOST COIN- OPERATED OF WEALTHY DEMOCRACIES IN THE WORLD.

IT IS THE BILLIONS AND BILLIONS THAT ARE SPENT BY SPECIAL INTERESTS ON EVERY ELECTION AND THEY EXPECT AND THEY SEE A RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT.

IT IS DEEPLY TRANSACTIONAL.

SO WHEN TRUMP COMES OUT AND HE LAUNCHES A CRYPTO COIN FOR HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY, WHEN TRUMP COMES OUT AND HE SUPPORTS MAJOR DEALS FOR MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY WITH THE COUNTRY THAT THE U.S. IS DOING DIPLOMACY WITH, THAT IS FRANKLY EVEN MORE KLEPTOCRATIC, BUT THE COMPANIES AROUND THE WORLD, THEY ARE USED TO WRITING BIG CHECKS FOR ACCESS.

EVEN FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN GET THEM ACCESS TO THE FAMILY.

IT IS MORE OBVIOUS FOR TRUMP THAN IT WAS FOR BITING, BUT IT HAPPENED UNDER BITING, TOO.

>> DON'T YOU THINK THIS IS NOT JUST CONTINUATION OF WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING, BUT ERIC TRUMP GOING TO DO BITE WHEN THEY ARE GIVING $2 BILLION TO THE UAE TO THIS , I DON'T KNOW, WORLD LIBERTY FINANCIAL COINS.

THAT SEEMS TO BE A DIFFERENT LEAGUE.

>> THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN ACTIVELY TALKING AS IF IT HAS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD FOR DECADES.

AND IT DOESN'T.

IT DOESN'T.

AND IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD FEEL LIKE YOU CAN PAY TO GET ACCESS TO A DIFFERENT LEGAL SYSTEM.

YOU CAN PAY TO WRITE YOUR OLD REGULATIONS.

YOU CAN PAY TO GOOD OUTCOMES YOU ONE.

BY THE WAY, I THINK THAT IS NOT TRUE IN TERMS OF AUTOCRACY.

SO ONE TRUMP GOES AFTER THE LAW FIRMS AND SAYS, I AM GOING TO EXTORT YOU BECAUSE YOU DECIDED TO REPRESENT SOMEONE THAT DESERVES REPRESENTATION, AND THIS IS AN ATTACK ON FOUNDATIONAL ROLE IN AMERICA.

THE LAW FIRMS REACT TO THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT USED TO DICTATORSHIP IN THE UNITED STATES.

COMPANIES ARE USED TO AUTOCRACY.

WHEN TRUMP GOES AFTER UNIVERSITIES AND SAYS WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO EDUCATE STUDENTS IN A MANNER THAT YOU SEE FIT, UNIVERSITIES RESPOND AND SAY, WOW, WOW, WOW.

WE WON'T TOLERATE THAT.

SO I DO NOT BELIEVE THE U.S. IS ON THE PRECIPICE OF BECOMING A DICTATORSHIP.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT U.S. HAS BEEN DRIVING SPEEDILY ON THE ROAD TO AUTOCRACY FOR A LONG TIME NOW AND I THINK TRUMP HAS HIS FOOT ON THE GAS.

THAT IS THE WAY I WOULD PUT IT.

>> IAN BREMMER, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US .

>> THANK YOU WALTER.