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GREA.. WOW, DO WE HAVE A LOT OF TOPICS THIS WEEK.

WE WILL GET TO THEM, BUT F.. LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS STARTING WITH THE MEDIA VETERAN HERSELF, WENDY WIESE.

FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH, BILL MCCLELLAN.

FROM THE ST. LOUIS MAGAZINE AND HOST OF THE NEW 314 PODCAST, SARAH FE FENSKE AND COLUMNIST AND EDITOR FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, ALVIN REID.

LAST WEEK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DENNIS HANCOCK, MEMBER OF THE ST. LOUIS COUNTY COUNCIL WHO HAD BEEN ACCUSED OF NEPOTISM BECAUSE HE HIRED A RELATIVE.

NO SOONER DID WE SPEAK, SOME OF US SAYING MAYBE HE SHOULD RESIGN BECAUSE IT LAS LIKE HE KNEW ABOUT NEPOTISM ACCORDING TO E-MAILS UNEARTHED.

AND PROSECUTING ATTORNEY, MELISSA PRICE SMITH DROPPED ALL CHARGES, SAYING BASICALLY HER OFFICE IS NOT GOING TO BE USED TO SETTLE POLITICAL SCORES, AND SHE ALSO HAD TROUBLE WITH THE COUNTY COUNSELOR WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING MR. HANCOCK, INSTEAD RECORDING HIM AND THEN SENDING THAT EVIDENCE TO THE PROSECUTOR FOR HIS PROSECUTION.

IN OTHER WORDS, HANCOCK IS OFF THE HOOKAS LONG AS HE PAYS HIS LEGAL BILLS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> LAST WEEK I HAD CHANG..

ORIGINAL OPINION.

I WAS FOR ..

HE CHANGED THAT AND SAID HE SHOULD RESIGN, BUT I THINK MELISSA MAKES A GOOD POINT, THAT THEY HAVE GOT BIGGER FISH TO FRY AND THEN HANCOCK AND YOU GUYS IN OPPOSITION TO ME LAST WEEK WAS SAYING IF HANCOCK HAS TO RESIGN, WHAT ABOUT THE HEALTH DIRECTOR, WHAT ABOUT THIS?

I SAY GIVE THEM ALL A CLEAN SLATE, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD DECISION TO MOVE ON AHEAD.

>> I LOVE THE TONE THAT MELISSA PRICE SMITH IS STRIKING.

SHE DOESN'T HAVE TIME FOR NONSENSE.

SHE ..

PLAYING POLICY TUCKS.

SHPOLITICS.SHE GAVE US A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS HER OFFICE IS FACING IN TERMS OF PRIORITY.

I LIKE HER SO FAR.

HOWEVER, SOME WILL SAY THOSE WILL THINK IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE PLAYING POLITICS, BECAUSE OF TONY MESSENGER'S COLUMN, AND YOU HAD HIM TELLING -- HE WASN'T TELLING THE TRUTH.

HE KNEW THAT NEPOTISM WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT HE COULD GET AWAY WITH, AND HE ALSO HAD TO PROMISE HE WOULD NEVER HIRE ANOTHER RELATIVE.

IT'S M.. DECODING RINGS IN THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

>> I..

IT'S STATE.

IT'S LOCAL.

EVERYBODY FOR "LAW AND ORDER" UNTIL I AIN'T GOT NO TIME FOR LAW AND ORDER.

ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE LAWS OR ARE HE WE NOT IN THE REASON YOU ARE NOT GOING AFTER HIM IS BECAUSE THIS ALL STEMS BACK TO WE ALL HATE SAM PAGE.

THIS WILL MAKE SAM PAGE LOOK BAD, SO I WILL MAKE SAM PAGE LOOK BAD EVEN THOUGH YOU BROKE THE LAW AND CHOSE TO LIE ABOUT IT.

>> I DISAGREE.

I THIN..

THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE.

THE THING WAS THEY CUT THE NEFARIOUS PLAN TO HIRE THE STEPDAUGHTER AND CUT IT OFF BEFORE ANY PUBLIC FUNDS WERE EXPENDED.

THE JURY IS .. SAYING WHY ARE YOU WASTING MY TIME?

INVOLVED.

TALKING TO LAW..

PRETTY SERIOUS ETHICAL ISSUES THERE WITH HER DOING THAT.

YOU CAN'T TAPE YOUR OWN CLIENT.

THIS IS WHAT PROSECUTORS WOULD SAY, KIND OF A DOG OF A CASE.

I THINK SHE MADE A SMART MOVE.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE POINT YOU MADE AGAINST ME LAST WEEK, CHARLIE, THE HEALTH DIRECTOR, DON'T WE HAVE TO PROSECUTE THE HEALTH DIRECTOR?

>> YOU'RE SAYING SHOULD THEY BE PROSECUTED?

BUT TH.. BROUGHT AGAINST THEM.

>> FOR POLITICAL REASONS.

>> I'M SAYING THERE WAS NO CHARGE BROUGHT AGAINST THEM.

>> IF I HAVE BLOWN THE VAULT OPEN IN A BANK, AND POLICE ARE COMING IN SAYING I DIDN'T STEAL ANY MONEY, I'M STILL ROBBING THE BANK.

IN OTHER WORDS.. IS, IS YOU ARE SAYING OH, SHE NEVER GOT PAID.

SO WHAT?

>> I DON'T THINK SHE WAS UPSET WITH SAM PAGE.

I THINK WE HAVE COVERED THIS WEEK, AFTER A $500,000 SETTLEMENT TO A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF WESLEY BELL, THAT MELISSA PRICE SMITH WAS NO BIG FAN OF HER PREDECESSOR.

>> THAT'S THE SAME THING.

>> WENDY, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT BOB CLARK WHO GAVE $111,000 TO THE POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE SUPPORTING CARA SPENCER, THE ST. LOUIS ALDER PERSON AND HER ATTEMPT TO BECOME THE NEXT MAYOR OF THE CITY.

$111,000 IS THE SPECIAL AMOUNT BECAUSE THAT'S THE AMOUNT HE SAID HE PAID FOR HIS ATTEMPT TO PUT A FACILITY, CEMENT FACILITY AT 70 AND GOOD FELLOW, WHICH WAS REJECTED BY THE ST. LOUIS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

THIS WEEK MAYOR TISHAURA J..

GAVE AN INTERVIEW AND SAID MS. SPENCER SHOULD RETURN THE MONEY, THAT MR. CLARK THREW A TANTRUM BECAUSE HE DIDN'T GET THINGS HIS WAY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I THINK TRILLIONAIRS ARE SENTIMENTAL.

HE IS .. SHIED IN THE SAME WAY THAT MAYOR JONES AND HER FATHER NEVER SHIED AWAY FROM TELLING IT THE WAY THEY SEE IT.

BOB CLARK IS EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.

YOU ARE AN EXECUTIVE, HAVE AN ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEBODY LIKE BOB CLARK.

HE CLEARLY FEELS THAT HE HAS NOT RECEIVED A LOT OF LOVE, AND HE NEEDS TO BE MADE TO FEEL SPECIAL.

..

IF I'M THE MAY.. ST. LOUIS, I'M GOING TO BE TALKING TO.

>> I DISAGREE WITH THAT.

I MEAN, LOOK.

OKAY.

RELATIONSHIP WITH ANYBODY IN THE CITY IF YOU FEEL LIKE, LOOK, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS WITH $11,000 IIS WITH $111,000IS ELECT WHOEVER YOU WANT TO.

BUT IF I'M RUNNING FOR OFFICE, I WILL TAKE ALL THE TEMPER TANTRUM MONEY SOMEBODY WANTS TO GIVE ME.

I DON'T LIKE YOU, WENDY, SO I WILL GIVE THE TEMPER TAMM TRUM TANTRUM MONEY TO ALVIN REID.

I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT BASKETBALL CLARK DOES EITHER.

BUT IF HE'S GIVING ME THE MONEY, I WILL TAKE THE MONEY.

>> I WAS VERY AGAINST THE CEMENT PLAN.

.. SAY THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT USE FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT THE IDEA OF POLITICIANS SHOULD GO AROUND VETTING EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEIR DONORS, THEY HAVE GOT TO VET THEIR STAFF, VET THE PEOPLE WORKING FOR THEM.

THESE DONATIONS, ONCE YOU GET IT, I THINK THEY SHOULD TAKE IT.

>> WHAT IF A CONVICTED FELON, UTILIZING ON OF PRISON, WHO WAS CONVICTED OF THEFT FROM SERVICES, BRIBERY, HE DID GIVE $300 TO CARA SPENCER.

I THINK JUST FOR OPTICS ANYWAY, MS. SPENCER MIGHT WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, BUT WE WILL GIVE THE MONEY TO CHARITY OR SOMETHING.

>> I HONESTLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM EITHER, BUT I BELIEVE FELONS SHOULD GET THEIR VOTING RIGHTS REINSTATED.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT, SARAH, BUT AS FAR AS RUNNING FOR OFFICE, THE 300 ISN'T WORTH THE BAD PUBLICITY OF WELL, YOU ARE A PART OF THIS GROUP NOW.

LEWIS REID, I LIKED HIM, JEFFREY BOYD, I LIKED HIM, BUT IF I'M RUNNING A CAMPAIGN, I WOULD SAY FELLAS.

>.. STEVEN, AND HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DONATION, AND SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEND THAT DONATION.

>.. YOU GET $300 AT?

AIN'T YOU BANKRUPT?

WHERE DID YOU GET 300?

AND THEN THEY FIND OUT WHERE THE 300 CAME FROM.

WHO KNOWS.

>> HE SOILED THE C..

THE RIVER FOR MONEY.

HE WAS MAKING DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE GUYS THAT GAVE HIM MONEY.

>>.. JONES, THIS IS A GOOD LINE OF ATTACK.

I APPREC..

I THINK THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT THE PEOPLE OF ST. LOUIS CARE ABOUT, WHO HAS GIVEN $300, WHO HAS GIVEN $111,000.

IT HELPS CARA SPENCER TO HAVE THIS MONEY.

I DON'T BLAME HER FOR SPENDING IT.

>> SPEAK.. LOUIS BOARD OF ALDERMEN IS ONCE AGAIN GOING TO CONSIDER -- BUT I THINK IT'S THE FINAL TIME, SARAH.

WHAT.. $290 MILLION THAT THE CITY GOT IN A LEGAL SETTLEMENT WITHSTAND KROENKE AND THE NFL?

IT WAS 250, 260 AND NOW IT'S UP TO 290 WITH INTEREST.

PEOPLE SPOKE AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT COLLEGE EDUCATION, CHILD CARE AND DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.

HAS BEEN PULLED BACK.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE MONEY FOR CHILD CARE.

BUT WITH PRESIDENT T.. OFFICE, NOW PEOPLE ARE NOT HAVING SECOND THOUGHTS, THEY ARE HAVING THIRD THOUGHTS.

>> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT ANY FORMAL PLAN FOR RAMS SPENDING IS GOING TO THE FULL BOARD OF ALDERMEN FOR DISCUSSION.

GET .. MY COLLEAGUE RYAN CRAWL HAS SPENT THE LAST COUPLE DAYS TALKING TO ALDERMEN ABOUT WHAT'S UP.

TRUMP'S ACTIONS EARLIER THIS WEEK HAVE GIVEN REAL COLD FEET TO SOME PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE BEEN INCLINED TO SPEND ALL THE MONEY RIGHT AWAY WHERE THEY ARE NOW SAYING HEY, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY COUNT ON THIS FEDERAL TAB TO KEEP FLOWING THE WAY IT DID UNDER BIDEN.

THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED A BIG CHUNK OF THIS SHOULD BE PUT AWAY FOR A RAINY DAY OR GAIN INTEREST.

THERE'S REAL DISSENSION WI.. BILL AND MANEUVERING ON PART OF THE ALDERMEN PRESIDENT, MEGAN GREEN.

.. TIME GETTING THE VOTES.

>> IT WILL BE INTERESTING BECAUSE ONE OF THE ADMINISTRATIONS FIRST OFF WHICH DIDN'T SAVE THIS MONEY FOR A RAINY DAY, POO POOED ON THAT, INCLUDING MYSELF, AND I WOULD SAY COME ON LET'S SPEND IT.

20/20 HINDSIGHT, SHE MAY HAVE BEEN RIGHT.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THI..

THINK BACK IN THE SUMMER A LOT OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE NATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN SAYING WHAT IF HE GETS ELECTED?

WHAT'S REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN?

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WERE ALL PIE IN THE SKY OR WHATEVER, BUT SOME OF THE RAMIFICATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN THOUGHT OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

HOWEVER, I THINK YOU GO WITH THIS PLAN THE WAY IT WAS ADOPTED.

..

WANTED.

>.. >> I WOULD SPEND IT.

LET'S DO IT.

WE ARE DOWN THE PATH NOW.

LET'S FINISH.

>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PIE IN THE SKY, THAT'S THE PART THEY PROBABLY SHOULD TAKE OUT, DAY CARE FOR CITY WORKERS, HELPING COLLEGE FUNDS IN THE FUTURE.

SPEND IT ON STREETS AND GARBAGE AND POLICE.

>> I HEA..

BUT THAT'S NOT IN THE PLAN.

LET'S APPROVE -- BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING BACK.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE AND SAY LET'S SPEND IT ON STREETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO GET SPENT AT ALL.

>> TRUMP MIGHT FUND POLICE.

THAT'S ONE THING HE MIGHT FUND.

>> WHEN HE DEFUNDED THE POLICE?

THAT'S WHAT HE DID.

>> I THINK HE MIGHT FUND THE POLICE.

.. ON 550, AND FRANK ASKED SENATOR SENDING ALL THE MIGRANTS BACK, THAT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE.

AND HE SAID HEY, MONEY IS NOT AN OBJECT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SECURITY OF THIS COUNTRY.

I THINK TRUMP AND REPUBLICAN SENATORS IN D.C. WILL SPEND MONEY ON SOME THINGS, AND THE CITY HAS TO DECIDE WHAT THAT WILL BE AND PUT THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WANT, LIKE COLLEGE.

>> MEANWHILE, LIKE I SAID, HE SIGNED TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE POLICE AND HOMICIDE INVESTIGATIONS.

SO YOU A.. THAT.

.. POLICE.

I .. >> THE SHIFT AWAY FROM DOWN.. THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE -- I THINK THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE SOME TROUBLE.

.. WEEK, AND SHE WAS KIND OF SKIRTING OR WORDSMITHING VERY CAREFULLY.

WE D.. HAVE A DEAL.

YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE POPCORN, FOR SURE.

>> I THINK DOWNT.. EVERY PENNY THAT WAS PROMISED FOR THEM.

>> BECAUSE THEY ARE DOIN.. FOR DOLLAR MATCH.

I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT ONE WHO GAVE EMILY HERNANDEZ A PRISON TERM.

RIOTERS IN WASHINGTON, D.C. THEN TWO YEARS LATER, SHE DROVE DRUNK AND KILLED A WOMAN WITH HER AUTOMOBILE.

HER SENTENCING WAS THIS WEEK.

AND THE JUDGE HALFRICK GAVE HER TWO YEARS.

>> I WOULD HAVE GIVEN HER THE FULL, 17, BECAUSE IT WAS TWO COUNTS.

IT WOU.. MAYBE NOT THE FULL 17.

MAYBE EITHER OR THAT SHE GETS THE FULL 17.

THIS IS A MENACE TO SOCIETY, PROVEN ONCE AGAIN.

I'M SORRY, BUT LOOK, YOU DID SOMETHING, AND BILLY WROTE A COLUMN.

I .. YOU WERE THERE, GOT ARRESTED.

WHILE AWAITING SENTENCING, YOU DID THIS.

I'M SORRY.

YOU EARNED EVERYONE .. YEARS.

IS 10 ENOUGH?

SHE SHOULD HAVE GOT THE OTHER 7.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK 10 YEARS WAS A FAIR SENTENCE, BUT WHAT EMILY HERNANDEZ DID GETTING SO DRUNK THAT YOU GO ON THE HIGHWAY THE WRONG WAY.

SHE KILLED A YOUNG MOTHER OF TWO YOUNG CHILDREN.

IT'S JUST A HEART BREAKING STORY, BECAUSE I THOUGHT EMILY HERNANDEZ WAS A NICE SMALL-TOWN KID WORKING AT THE PIZZA SHOP.

HER UNCLE SAID, EMILY HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE D.C. COME WITH US.

WE WILL HAVE YOU BACK TOMORROW.

IT WAS A TERRIBLE THING.

BUT I THOUGHT SHE WAS A NICE KID, AND NICE KIDS CAN DO TERRIBLE THINGS, DRUNK DRIVING, BUT THERE'S A PRICE TO PAY.

I AGREE WITH YOU, ALVIN.

>> TERRIBLE THINGS, KILLING SOMEBODY.

10 YEARS FEELS RIGHT.

WHAT HAPPENED AFTER SHE GOT APPREHENDED ON JANUARY 6th.

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE WALK-UP CALL.

SHE DIDN'T TAKE IT.

I DON'T KNOW YOU NEED TO STACK THE TERMS, GIVE HER 17 YEARS.

HOPEFULLY SHE CAN CLEAN UP HER LIFE AND COME OUT FROM BEHIND BARS.

>.. THING, AND I WILL LIVE WITH THE SHAME OF IT FOREVER.

>> I'M GLAD YOU MADE THAT POINT, BILL, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL SEEN TOO MANY PRISON MOVIES OR CRIME MOVIES THAT THE PRISONS ARE KILLED WITH BAD PEOPLE.

NO.

PRISONS ARE FI.. PEOPLE, TOO, WHO MADE REALLY AWFUL DECISIONS IN A SPLIT SECOND.

>> 98 FIRST OF THE PEOPLE IN PRISON NEED TO BE IN PRISON.

>> THANKS TO DNA EVIDENCE WE FOUND THAT WENDY IS RIGHT.

>> 98% NEED TO BE WHERE THEY ARE AT.

>> ALVIN, YOU ..

COLUMNIST FOR THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.

EXPL..

GOING ON.

HIGH SCHOOL SAYS ON FRIDAY NIGHTS GAMES WILL ONLY BE ATTENDED BY PARENTS, PLAYERS, REFEREES AND COACHES.

NO COLLEGE SCOUTS, NO FANS FROM THE SCHOOL AND THIS OF COURSE IS BECAUSE NOT IN BASHON, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THIS WEEK DURING THE BCU SLEW GAME CBS SPORTS CARRIED FOR 10 MINUTES A FIGHT IN THE STANDS BIND THE BCU BENCH.

>> AT A SLEW GAME.

>> ON NATIONAL TV.

IT MADE NATIONAL NEWS.

WHAT IS GOING ON.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT HAPPENED AT SLEW, A YOUNG MAN HAD GONE TO BASHON, PLAYED AT SLEW AND TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER COLLEGE BEFORE GOING TO BCU.

BEHIND THE BENCH ARE PARENTS AND FRIENDS.

PEOP..

I'M TOLD THE MOM HAD FINALLY HAD ENOUGH.

..

BLOWS AND TUMBLING DOWN THE STEPS AND ALL OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW.

THE REASON THAT CBS SPORTS NETWORK WAS TRAPPED IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A MINUTE AND 10 SECONDS LEFT IN THE GAME, AND BY AND CONTRACTUALLY YOU CAN'T LEAVE IT, AND THE OTHER GAME, WHICH WAS A WEST COAST GAME HAD STARTED YET.

THERE WERE NO COMMER..

THEY WERE STUCK.

THEY HAD TO BASICALL..

THERE, AND LIKE HEY, IT'S BROAD COVERAGE NOW.

AND EARL AUSTIN, WHO DO RADIO CEM TEAR, TORNADO WATCHES AT A RADIO ANGLE FOR THEM, AND THEY WERE, TOO.

AND IT W.. GET UP, WALK OUT AND GAWK.

WE REALLY CAN'T SEE.

AND THEY WERE BANGING OUT OF COVERING THE BRAWL IN THE STANDS.

THEY REALLY CO.. WAS GOING ON.

>> I FOUND IT ENTERTAINING.

I WAS WATCHING.

BAD NEWS FOR ST. LOUIS.

BUT ENTERTAINING TO SEE THESE PEOPLE OUT OF CONTROL AND I WAS SURPRISED THEY KEPT THE CAMERA ON THE FIGHT AND INSTEAD THEY WENT OVER TO WATCH THE PLAYERS STANDING THERE.

IT'S IF YOU RUN ON A FIELD IN THE BASEBALL GAME.

>> I'M LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, NOT EVERYBODY, BUT I JUST WATCHED THE CLIP WHEN THE STORY BROKE, AND IT WAS JUST ENDLESSLY HUMOROUS TO ME IS ONE OF THE INTERNATIONAL TELEVISION COMMENTATORS, HE SAID THAT'S ASHAME, AND SEEING PEOPLE WRIPG EACH OTHER'S HEADS OFF.

THAT'S ASHAME FOR ST. LOUIS, BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE GOING TO WRAP THIS UP NICELY, AND IT'S LIKE THE COW IS OUT OF THE BARN.

>> HE DID SAY WE USUALLY DON'T SHOW, BUT HE WAS TRAPPED.

>> NOW, SARAH AND I COME FROM A CITY WHERE THEY ONCE HAD A RIOT ON 10 CENTS BEER NIGHT WHEN THEY RAN OUT OF BEER, SO MAYBE THESE THINGS AREN'T ALL THAT NEW.

>> I DON'T THINK THEY ARE NEW AT ALL.

I STARTED TAKING MY .. BASKETBALL GAMES AND GOT TWO LITTLE GIRLS WHO WERE BASKETBALL CRAZY.

IT'S SUCH A GOOD FAMILY FRIENDLY SAFE, SUN ATMOSPHERE IN THERE.

>> JACKIE JOYNER WAS THERE.

>> ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY VERSUS VIRGINIA COMMONWEALTH UNIVERSITY.

YOU ..

GOING TO BE BRAWLING IN THE STANDS.

>> MAYBE OUR MOST IMPORTANT TOPIC OF THE WEEK, WE GO TO SHREWSBURY WITH OUR EXPERT WENDY WIESE.

WENDY, THERE'S A STORY IN THE WESTWARD KIRKWOOD SOMETIMES THAT?

SHREWSBURY ONE FAMILY PUT THEIR GARDEN IN THE FRONT YARD BECAUSE THE SIDE YARD AND THE BACKYARD HAVE NO SUNSHINE.

LOCAL ANIMALS WERE GETTING INTO THE GARDEN, SO THEY PUT A FOUR-FOOT ENCLOSED STRUCTURE AROUND IT.

IT'S A RAISED GARDEN IN A .. FORM.

WHILE THE NEIGHBORS SEEM TO BE OKAY WITH IT, CITY MOTHERS AND FATHERS ARE NOT.

THEY SAY IF IT'S GOING TO BE RAISED IT CAN ONLY BE 24 INCHES.

THIS ONE IS 48 INCHES.

DO YOU THINK SUCH A GARDEN BELONGS IN THE BACK, OR GIVEN THAT IT'S GOOD FOR OUR HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT, ALL OF US SHOULD BE PLANTING IN OUR FRONT YARDS?

>> CHARLIE, WHEN YOU'RE STRESSED OUT WHEN YOU'RE DOING YARD WORK, YOU MIGHT AS WELL PUT A SOFA AND A COFFEE TABLE IN THE FRONT YARD OR TAKE A LITTLE NAP OR REST IN THE FRONT YARD WHERE YOU CAN GET SOME SUN.

I'M BEING FACETIOUS OBVIOUSLY.

BUT RULES ARE RULES, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T LOOK LIKE MUCH OF A RULE FOLLOWER, I KNOW I LOOK LIKE A REAL REBEL, SARAH, SERIOUSLY, CUT THE TREES DOWN.

I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT WAS A HEALTH ISSUE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO EAT HEALTHIER, BUT IF YOU CHOOSE TO LIVE IN A MUNICIPALITY, YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE RULES OF THE MUNICIPALITY.

I FEEL FOR..

I TRULY DO, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO KNOCK A COUPLE OF TREES DOWN TO HAVE YOUR RAISED GARDEN, YOUR 48-INCH RAISED GARDEN.

>> I COULD HAVE A BASKETBALL COURT IN THE FRONT YARD BUT NOT A 48-INCH RAISED BED.

I THINK THIS IS -- SHREWSBURY NEEDS TO ADDRESS THIS AND SAY WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW 48 INCHES BECAUSE IT'S THERE, AND WE WILL GRANDFATHER THIS ONE IN, BUT FROM NOW ON, YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR CASE AS TO WHY THIS HAS TO BE.

>..

YOUR HONOR.

>> QUITE FRANKLY IF I HAD TO TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF SOMEBODY THAT HAD A 48-INCH RAISED BED, I'M WITH THE FARMER, THE GARDNER.

>> THERE'S ANOTHER FACTOR IN THIS STORY, AND THE REASON THEY HAD TO PUT THE FENCE AROUND IT WAS BECAUSE THE NEIGHBOR HAD A CAT, AND THE CAT WAS ROAMING FREE, AND WE KNOW ALVIN HAS -- I THINK RUBEN RUNS FREE.

>> WE TRY.

>> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, YOUR HONOR.

>> AND YOU'RE PROBABLY..

IT, BECAUSE THE STEPDAUGHTER WHO WAS GOING TO COME OVER AND HELP THEM GARDEN TOGETHER.

>> MELISSA PRICE SMITH IS NOT GOING TO CHARGE THOSE PEOPLE.

>> RUBEN IS FIXED.

RUBEN ISN'T OUT THERE MAKING BABY KITTENS.

>> I WANT TO SAY I THINK THIS IS ABSURD.

I WISH WE ALL HAD SH..

PROBLEMS.

COME..

THIS IS WHAT THEY HAD TO SPEND TIME ON?

>> I'M NOT CLUTCHING ANY PEARLS.

>> YOU ARE CLUTCHING PEARLS.

>> I'M NOT CLUTCHING ANY PEARLS, BUT IF SOMEONE BUILDS A GREENHOUSE IN THEIR FRONT YARD AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT HOUSES, IT'S GOING TO COST A COUPLE OF SALES.

>> YOU'VE SEEN A PICTURE OF IT.

>> WHY NOT?

IF WE ARE RELAXING THE RULES, THE SLIPPERY SLOPE.

>> IT WOULD PROBABLY RAISE PROPERTY VALUES IN THE CITY WHERE I LIVE.

>> THEY GOT LIKE A STAGE WITH A STRIPPER POLE ON IT OR SOMETHING.

IT'S.. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

WAS WENDY LYING WHEN SHE SAID I FEEL SORRY FOR THESE PEOPLE?

>> I DO.

I DO THINK THEY WANT TO BE HEALTHY.

TH.. ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE OR BACK OF THE HOUSE.

>> SERIOUSLY, THERE ARE PLACES.

>> KNOCK DOWN THE TREE.

>> I THINK WENDY WRITES UP GOOD POINTS.

IF YOU'R.. FORTUNE INTO A HOUSE, YOU CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING GOING AT THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR.

BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE I THINK THE FUTURE IS PEOPLE WILL PLANT VEGETABLES IN THEIR FRONT LAWNS.

>> LOOK AT THE SOLAR PANEL DEBATE.

HO.. CIRCLE PANELS.

>> YOUR WORDS WILL BE THE LAST ONES FOR THIS WEEK'S EPISODE.

LET'S GO TO THE OLD MAILBAG.

AFTER THE LAST TWO DONNYBROOKS, LET'S GIVE UP.

LET US OUTSOURCE CITY GOVERNMENT BY HIRING A CITY MANAGER.

LET'S OUTSOURCE CONTROL OF THE POLICE.

LET'S FOLLOW CHARLIE'S ADV.. AND GET MORE BUSINESSMEN AND WOMEN IN CHARGE OF POWER LIKE THE BANKRUPT BUSINESS DEVELOPER OF THE NOW CLOSED ST. LOUIS ARMORY.

FROM FRANK O.. CAROL OF ST. LOUIS WROTE WENDY POINTED OUT THAT IN PAST DECADES DRIVERS ADAPTED TO ROADS THAT HAD NOT BEEN CLEARED OF SNOW BY LEAVING EARLY TO ALLOW EXTRA TIME.

ADDITION.. CHAINS ON VEHICLE TIRES.

MATTEMARY ANN WROTE, WHEN THE STATE WAS IN CONTROL, WE DIDN'T HAVE GREAT CRIME STATS.

MS. MILLER LIVES IN ST. LOUIS.

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