Donnybrook
May 22, 2025
Season 2025 Episode 21 | 27m 57sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Sarah Fenske, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Bill McClellan.
Charlie Brennan debates with Sarah Fenske, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Bill McClellan. Topics include the failure of the tornado sirens in St. Louis city, if the Rams settlement money should go towards tornado relief, population decline in the area, and Illinois covering the healthcare costs of undocumented immigrants.
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May 22, 2025
Season 2025 Episode 21 | 27m 57sVideo has Closed Captions
Charlie Brennan debates with Sarah Fenske, Wendy Wiese, Alvin Reid, and Bill McClellan. Topics include the failure of the tornado sirens in St. Louis city, if the Rams settlement money should go towards tornado relief, population decline in the area, and Illinois covering the healthcare costs of undocumented immigrants.
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WOW, WHAT A WEEK WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, AND WE'LL GET TO IN, IN A MOMENT.
FIRST, LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS.
WENDY WIESE.
WITH BILL MCCLELLAN FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.
AND WE WELCOME LAST WEEK'S, ALVIN REID, FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN.
WELL, THAT WAS THURSDAY LAST WEEK'S SHOW, AND THEN ON FRIDAY, SARAH, A HORRIFIC TORNADO RIPPED ITS WAY THROUGH MUCH OF RICHMOND HEIGHTS AND CLAYTON AND THE CENTRAL WEST END OF ST. LOUIS.
TRAGICALLY, FIVE PEOPLE DIED.
HOWEVER, THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTS TODAY, THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS DID NOT SOUND IT ALARMS BEFORE THE TORP.
-- TORNADO, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS NOTIFIED AT 2:35 FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
WHAT'S THE LATEST ON THIS?
>> IT'S SAFE TO SAY MISTAKES WERE MADE.
THE COMMISSIONER IN CHARGE OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, HAS BEEN PUT ON LEAVE.
THE MAYOR DID THAT SAYING THE MORE SHE PROBES WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, THERE'S LAIR LAYERS -- LAYERS AND LAYERS AND LAYERS OF DYSFUNCTION.
IT DATES BACK MANY MANY YEARS.
WHAT HAPPENED HERE APPARENT IS ALL THE PEOPLE AT THE CITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY WERE AT A WORKSHOP, NOT CONNECTED WITH THE PHYSICAL BUTTON THAT YOU HAVE TO PUSH IN REAL LIFE.
THEY WERE ALL AT THIS TRAINING, AND SARAH RUSSELL, THE COMMISSIONER CALLED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND SAID, YOU GOT THIS BUTTON, RIGHT?
AND IT WAS AN UNCLEAR INSTRUCTION.
AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SAID YES, BUT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT SHE MEANT FOR THEM TO PUSH IT.
THE LATEST THINKING IS THEY DIDN'T PUSH IT, AND WE FOUND OUT DAYS LATER, EVEN IF THEY HAD PUSHED IT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S VERSION OF THIS PARTICULAR BUTTON DIDN'T WORK.
IT'S ERROR AFTER ERROR.
>> YOU WERE DISCUSSING LAST WEEK HOW THE DOORS DON'T OPERATE, AND BILL YOU POINTED OUT THE LOCKS ON THE JAIL DON'T WORK.
WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON?
HOW MANY MORE OF THESE WILL WE HAVE?
>> THOSE PALE IN COMPARISON.
IF I'M IN CHARGE OF THE TORNADO SIREN AND THERE'S A CHANCE OF SEVERE WEATHER, I'M NOT LEAVING MY JOB.
I WOULD BE INTERESTED WHAT IS THE TERRAINING AND WHERE WERE -- TRAINING AND WHERE WERE YOU AT?
>> THEY WERE IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.
>> WERE THEY IN A ROOM WITH WINDOWS?
SOMETHING THAT BASIC THAT WE'VE BEEN IN HERE AT CHANNEL 9 IN THE MIDDLE OF A SEVERE WEATHER OUTBREAK.
>> I WAS IN NEVADA THAT MORNING, WOKE UP, LOOKED AT THE WEBSITE AND SAID, A CHANCE OF TORNADOS BETWEEN 1 AND 7 P.M..
I WAS CONCERNED, BUT I WASN'T THE HEAD OF THE CITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT PERSON IS I WOULD STAY IN THE OFFICE NEXT TO THE BUTTON.
>> IT DOES SEEM AWFUL CASUAL.
AND THEN MAKE A PHONE CALL TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
YOU GOT THIS?
>> AND YOU AND YOUR STAFF ADDRESS THIS BELIEF THAT WE HAVE, I'VE HAD IT ALL MY LIFE, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A HISTORY OF DEVASTATING STORM IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS , IT NEVER REALLY HAPPENS IN THE CITY.
YOU TURN ON THE -- >> JUST GEOLOGICAL FORCE FIELD AROUND THE CITY.
>> DID ANYONE KNOW SOMEONE PHYSICALLY PUSHES A BUTTON?
MAYBE IT'S NOT LIKE THAT AT OTHER PLACES.
>> THE SYSTEM IS NOT A STATE OF THE SATURDAY SYSTEM.
>> OLDER PEOPLE DON'T -- >> WHY WAS SARAH RUSSELL PUT ON LEAVE WITH PAY?
>> YOU CAN'T OUT AND OUT FIRE PEOPLE.
>> THE MAYOR DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO FIRE THIS PERSON.
EVERYTHING WITH THE CITY IS BAKED IN THE CHARTER.
SHE TOOK EVERY ACTION SHE COULD.
>> IT'S STILL BEING INVESTIGATED.
THE MAYOR IS NOT SAYING SHE KNOWS EXACTLY WHO'S AT FAULT.
I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> BUT MIKE BUTLER, THE RECORDER OF DEEDS IS LAND BLASTING THE MAYOR ON FACEBOOK.
MEANWHILE, A CLIP HERE, SOME ALDERMEN CAME TO THE MAYOR'S DEFENSE AFTER MR. BUTLER MADE THE ALLEGATIONS.
>> THERE'S NOTHING THAT I HAVE ASKED OF THIS MAYOR THAT SHE HAS NOT DONE.
SHE'S GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WLAS REQUIRED OF HER.
HE'S BEEN IN OFFICE ONE MONTH.
>> I CAN'T DEAL WITH THE NEGATIVITY WHEN THERE'S PEOPLE OUT HERE WHO ARE HURTING.
THIS NEEDS TO STOP.
>> THE MAYOR IS GOING HOUSE TO HOUSE, NEIGHBORHOODS, SHE'S BEEN WALKING IN THE HOUSES SEEING WHAT PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH.
>> WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT IN THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW WE UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO BE UNIFIED.
>> WAS MIKE BUTLER OUT OF LINE?
>> NO HE'S POSITIONING HIMSELF AS THE SHADOW MAYOR.
FOUR YEARS AGO, THEN MAYOR NOT A SERIOUS MOMENT LIKE THIS, BUT AN AWKWARD MOMENT WITH A SHOVEL READY THING, WITH THE ARCH U AND IT WAS ALL WHITE PEOPLE.
AND SAID, THIS SHOWS WHAT WE CAN DO WHEN WE ALL WORK TOGETHER.
IT WAS A DEAF STATEMENT AND SHE APOLOGIZED FOR IT.
AND JONES SAID WE'RE SICK OF APOLOGIES AND APOLOGIES DON'T DO ENOUGH.
WE NEED SOMETHING BETTER THAN THIS.
I REMEMBER WRITING A COLUMN SAYING SHE WAS THE SHADOW MAYOR, AND MIKE BUTLER IS POSITIONING HIMSELF IN THAT WAY.
I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE CAN REALISTICALLY BLAME SPENCER FOR INHERITING AN OLD SYSTEM.
BUT MIKE BUTLER IS -- >> IN THE CITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY HEAD, WHO WAS SOMEONE ELSE'S APPOINTEE.
>> WE CAME OFF A PERIOD WHERE EVERYTHING WAS THE MAYOR'S FAULT.
IT DIDN'T MATTER.
WHY DIDN'T SHE JUST FIRE THE ONE WHO RUNS THE JAIL AND SO AND SO.
SHE CAN'T JUST FIRE THESE PEOPLE.
THAT'S THE WAY THE CITY CHARTER -- THERE WAS NO RELIEF.
IT WAS CAMPAIGN SEASON.
IF YOU'RE ELECTED PRESIDENT OR SENATOR, IF YOU'RE ELECTED MAYOR OF A CITY OR METRO, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU BEEN ON THE JOB ONE MONTH, BUT ONE HOUR, YOU'RE IN CHARGE.
I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS ALL HER FAULT.
BUT SHE'S BEEN ON THE JOB A MONTH?
>> WHO WAS SAYING -- HE WAS SAYING IT WAS ALL HER FAULT.
I THINK IT WAS VERY TONE DEAF.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NO MAYOR COULD HAVE SEEN COMING.
I QUESTIONED ALL THE CANDIDATES LEADING UP TO THIS, NOBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE EMERGENCY MOUNTAIN AGENCY.
AND TO -- MANAGEMENT AGENCY.
>> YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S CRITICISM FROM THE EDITORIAL PAGE, YOUR NEWSPAPER OR THE MAGAZINE, OR CRITICIZED SIMPLE FROM DONNYBROOK, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP ELECTED OFFICIALS ON THEIR TOES.
AND I THINK THAT PLAYS A ROLE AT THE SAME TIME, I GIVE THIS MAYOR SOME APPLAUDETS.
SHE'S BEEN IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA NUMEROUS TIMES SINCE LAST FRIDAY.
>> AND WALKING INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES.
>> WE DO NOTHING BUT TO COMMEND THE EFFORT OF THE MAYOR AT THIS TIME.
BUT A LOT IS GOING TO THE HAPPEN.
>> SURE.
THERE'LL BE A TIME -- >> A LOT WILL HAPPEN AND OVER THE SUMMER HERE, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO WITH WHERE'S'S FEMA.
WE'RE LEFT IN THIS KIND OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT?
AND MAYBE PEOPLE -- OVERALL, THE ALDERMAN PEOPLE, MIKE BUTLER, I'M NOT SAYING THE PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING SIDES FOR A RACE THAT'S FOUR YEARS AWAY.
>> THEY ARE.
>> WATCHING THE CLIP THAT'S ASTOUNDING.
ORIGINAL -- INCARNATION TO SEE SHARON COMPLETELY REASONABLE, AND THOUGHTFUL ABOUT SOMETHING.
>> SHE MAY HAVE BEEN DISHING IT, BUT I THINK SHE THOUGHT THAT PARTICULAR CRITICISM WAS OUT OF LINE.
WHAT MADE IT WRONG HE DIDN'T POINT OUT ANY SPECIFIC THING.
SHE INHERITED THIS PROBLEM.
SHE DID A GOOD JOB -- >> THE FORMER MAYOR DID GET A BAD DEAL ON THE SNOW.
THIS IS AN ACT OF NATURE, ACT OF GOD.
AND PEOPLE BLAMED JONES FOR POOR SNOW REMOVAL, WHEN WE NEVER HAD A SNOW REMOVAL POLICY.
>> TO BE CLEAR THOUGH, IN 2025, THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER APPARATUS, NOT ONLY OF ST. LOUIS BUT THE NATION, BECAUSE WE HAVE BECOME SO COMPLACENT, THERE'S OUT IN THE COUNTY, ADJACENT COUNTIES, NOW IF YOU DO HAVE YOUR PHONE AND GETTING THE ALERTS, YOU GENUINELY DON'T KNOW.
I CAN HEAR COUNTIES A COUPLE OF COUNTIES AWAY WHEN THEIR SIRENS ARE GOING OFF.
IT'S NOT A FAIL SAFE FOOLPROOF SYSTEM.
>> BUT ALVIN REID, OVERALL, THE EXPERIENCE I HAD, I LIVE IN CLAYTON AND I SAW POWER COMPANIES FROM ALL OVER MISSOURI RESPONDING.
AND WHEN IT CAME TO PEOPLE TRIMMING TREES AND PICKING UP THE LIMBS, THEY WERE FROM BALDWIN AND FROM ALL OVER THE STATE.
AND POLICE OFFICERS, EUREKA, RICHMOND HEIGHTS, IN ADDITION TO CLAYTON.
I GUESS CHIEF ACTIVATED CODE 1,000 THAT BRINGS IN MUTUAL AID.
WITH MIKE, OUTSIDE HIS HEADQUARTERS ON KING HIGHWAY, THE CHURCH OF LATTER DAY SAINTS FROM KEARNEY, NEBRASKA.
AND DOWN THE STREET, MCCARTHY.
I'VE NEVER SEEN THE REGION PULL TOGETHER LIKE THIS.
>> THIS NEVER HAPPENS.
>> WITH TORNADOS.
>> WHEN YOU SEE IT, SATURDAY MORNING I WENT TO THE SATURDAY MORNING PRESS CONFERENCE, WHEN YOU SEE IT, IT CALLS YOU TO ACTION.
I MEAN, THIS IS NOT ONE -- THOSE TREES, THE POWER LINES ALL THAT, IT WAS MORE THAN A CITY COULD HANDLE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN A CITY CAN HANDLE.
I APPLAUD EVERYONE, BUT THE FIRST PEOPLE WHO STARTED HELPING EACH OTHER WERE THE NEIGHBORS.
THERE WERE NO TIME THAT MY HOUSE MADE IT AND YOURS DIDN'T.
PEOPLE WERE HELPING PEOPLE.
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL TO SEE.
BUT IT'S A HORRIFIC SCENE.
THE LAST THING THAT PEOPLE THREW OUT THE CITY -- WHERE THERE'S DAMAGE, GAWKING, BUT, IF YOU SEE IT, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND -- I SAY GAWK BEFORE 7 A.M..
WHEN TRAFFIC IS NOT BIG.
WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH NORTH ST. LOUIS , YOU'LL HAVE TO PULL OUT THE WALLET AND MAKE A CONTRIBUTION.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
>> IT'S BEEN GREAT TO SEE SO MUCH MOBILIZATION.
SO MANY FRIENDS OUT THERE VOLUNTEERING, AND THEY'VE ALL COME AWAY IMPRESSED WITH THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP.
AND HOW WELL ORGANIZED THE PEOPLE LEADING THE CHARGES ARE.
THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO A LOT.
>> IT WOULD HELP, SATURDAY MORNING I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE GOVERNOR.
TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE, AND THAT WAS SATURDAY AND AIN'T NOBODY MOVED ON SUNDAY.
AND THE FEMA DIRECTOR, BLAH BLAH BLAH DO THAT.
AND THE FEMA DIRECTOR SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
YOU KNOW WHAT SHE SAID, YES.
ST. LOUIS HELP, YES.
AND THE NEIGHBOR HERE, YESTERDAY AND YOU -- >> THEY ARE HERE ASSESSING.
>> IT'S SO SOON.
LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY.
ASHVILLE GOT HIT BY A HURRICANE APRIL 25.
HUD JUST AGREED TO GIVE THE MONEY FIVE DAYS AGO.
IT'S A LONG ROAD.
DO YOU THINK THAT RAM'S MONEY THAT WE WON IN THE LITIGATION WITH THE NFL, $300 MILLION SHOULD GO EXCLUSIVELY TO NORTH ST. LOUIS AND THE CENTRAL WEST END WHERE THERE WAS DAMAGE?
>>ENING A PERFECT -- I THINK IN A PERFECT WORLD, SURE, IT WOULD.
BUT IN A CITY THAT REALLY NEEDED A RESET AND LOOKING FORWARD TO A NEW DAY AND THINGS SEEMED TO BE STARTED OVER.
POLITICALLY, I THINK THAT IS GOING TO END UP A MINE FIELD.
>> WHO COULD DENY IT?
>> YOU CAN'T, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO DOOR TO DOOR.
WHO'S GOING TO GET THE MONEY?
THE SECOND -- AND A LOT OF THIS WILL GO OVERTIME TO THE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO ST. LOUIS AND HELPED OUT.
PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WAIT, HOLD IT.
ALL OF THE MONEY IS GOING TO THE DIFFERENT ENTITYTIES.
ENTITIES.
WE'RE GOING TO USE THE RAMS MONEY YOU HAVE TO FIRST DECLARE WHETHER A TO USE ITS ON.
>> IT'S LIKE THE LAST TIME AROUND.
EVERYONE AGREES, THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS, AND THERE'S A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS TO SKIN A CAT.
>> THEY WERE ONE OF THE FIRST TO BECOME INVOLVED, I'M NOT PICKING ON THEM.
>> THAT'S THE REAL CHALLENGE FOR THE NEW MAYOR.
IS TRYING TO GET THE COMMUNITY TO STICK WITH THIS, SO IT'S NOT A THANKSGIVING WHERE PEOPLE GO TO THE HOMELESS SHELTER AND FEED THE HOMELESS AND FORGET ABOUT THEM FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
I THINK THE THE MOOD RIGHT NOW IS ONE OF PEOPLE DO WANT TO HELP.
>> I AGREE.
I'M WITH YOU, WENDY.
WE HAVE TO FIND A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER MONEY.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE IN TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF YOUR ALMA MATER?
WALKING DISTANCE -- WHY NOT?
IT'S EMPTY.
THE CAMPUS IS NOT USING THE DORMS ANYMORE.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPTY BUILDINGS IN ST. LOUIS.
AND I THINK THAT IS A TERRIFIC IDEA.
I DO THINK RIGHT NOW AS IN THE CLIP, THERE IS SUCH A SENSE OF UNITY AND PURPOSE, EVEN IF IT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE, I CAN SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE SISTERS OF ST. JOSEPH WANT TO SEE.
>> EVERYONE WANTS TO HELP UNTIL, WELL, DO WE HELP HERE?
>> PUSH COMES TO SHOVE.
>> THEY'RE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET OF WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY.
IT WOULD BE A PERFECT MARRIAGE TO ME.
HEY, THE POPULATION LAWS IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.
FROM 2020 TO 2024, ST. LOUIS CITY LOST MORE PEOPLE THAN ANY OTHER LARGE CITY IN THE UNITED STATES, AND ONLY FIVE CITIES WITH POPULATIONS GREATER THAN 20,000 LOST MORE AS A PERCENTAGE THAN ST. LOUIS CITY.
SO THE QUESTION FOR YOU IS, IS THERE ANY WAY TO REVERSE THE POPULATION DECLINE?
>> I BELIEVE THAT ABSOLUTELY WILL BE REVERSED.
AND I HAVE NOTHING IN TERMS OFS STATISTICS TO BASE THAT ON.
I'M TALKING ABOUT ANT -- EVIDENCE.
KANSAS CITY, USED TO BE THE BUTT OF EVERY JOKE, AND NOW THEY HAVE GONE PAST US.
EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS CYCLE -- CYCLICAL.
THESE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
WE'LL BOUNCE BACK.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT AND I HOPE IT'S SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
I THINK THERE'S INTERESTING POPULATION TRENDS HAPPENING IN THE CITY WHERE FAMILIES HAVE BEEN JUST MOVING OUT.
SOMETHING THAT USED TO BE A DUPLEX IS HOUSING A COUPLE THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE KIDS.
UNFORTUNATELY THIS TORNADO WILL EXACERBATE THAT POLICY.
>> A LOT OF IT COMES DOWN TO SCHOOLS.
HOW TO ATTRACT YOUNG FAMILIES IF HAVE YOU NOT GOOD SCHOOLS.
-- YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD SCHOOLS.
AND THE SCHOOLS NEED MONEY.
BUT A SOLUTION -- >> THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WILL LEAVE THE NORTH SIDE.
IF YOUR HOUSE IS DESTROYED, THERE'S JUST -- THEY'RE NOT GOING TO REBUILD A HOUSE.
WHERE THE HOUSE SAT, HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE ANYWAY?
YOU HAVE TO LIVE SOMEPLACE ELSE.
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WILL LEAVE.
NOW YOU HAVE TO RECOUP.
IT'S NOT A NO WIN SITUATION, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YEAH, THIS -- THIS IS TERRIBLE FOR THE POPULATION PROBLEM.
>> THE POPULATION WAS DISPERSED AFRICA -- KATRINA.
>> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BORN AND HAD KIDS.
YOU GET A NATURAL POPULATION COME BACK.
WEEM HAVE KIDS.
-- PEOPLE HAVE KIDS.
RIGHT, BUT 20 YEARS DOWN DID LINE.
>> ASK YOU OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN ILLINOIS.
IN 2019, AND 2021, INVITING IMMIGRANTS TO THE STATE, AND WE'LL TREAT YOU LIKE ANYONE ELSE.
NOW HEALTH CARE FOR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS ARE $404 MILLION A YEAR.
THE STATE HAS BUDGET PROBLEMS, THEY'RE THINKING OF CUTTING OUT THE HEALTH CARE FOR THE UNDOCUMENTED.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THE PAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, ONE OF THE MISTAKES THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY MADE SAID THERE'S NO IMMIGRATION PROBLEM.
YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YES, I'M NOT GOING TO ROUND PEOPLE UP AND SEND THEM TO EL SALVADOR.
AS WENDY PREDICTEDED, THE GOVERNOR IS GOING FOR PRESIDENT.
THIS IS A PROBLEM NOW, SORRY, UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE.
>> THAT'S A BIG SWITCH FOR SOMEONE WHO MADE A LIFE SITUATION.
PUTTING DOWN ROOTS IN ILLINOIS FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY.
I THINK THAT'S SHAMEFUL.
>> I'M NOT THE GOVERNOR.
>> I KNOW, I AGREE WITH THE DEFENSE, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD, BUT THAT'S DISTASTEFUL TO ME.
>> IT'S ALSO DANGEROUS, IF SOMEONE IS UNDOCUMENTED AND NEEDS HEALTH CARE, DO YOU WANT TO TREAT THE PERSON OR SPREAD THE -- >> THIS IS A STATE THAT CANNOT FUND ITS PENSIONS.
IF I'M A RESIDENT OF ILLINOIS, AND YOU SAID ONCE, THAT YOU SAID THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE MARCH AND RIOT IN THE STREETS AND AT THE BALLOT BOX.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SAY, WHY ARE WE FUNDING THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS WLEN WE CAN'T FUND OUR PENSIONS?
>> I'M INCLINED TO AGREE WITH SARAH.
IT'S SHORTSIGHTED TO TAKE A LARGE POPULATION AND SAY YOU DON'T GET HEALTH CARE.
>> AFTER THEY WERE TOLD.
>> WHAT DO PEOPLE DO THAT DON'T HAVE ANY HEALTH CARE.
WE DON'T TURN PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
YOU PAY FOR THAT.
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PAYS FOR THE SHODDY HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
WE PAY IT.
ILLINOIS WILL PAY IN SOME FASHION, WHEN AN UNDOCUMENTED LADY GOES AND HAS A BABY IN THE HOSPITAL.
>> HAVE YOU SEEN THAT BILL?
>> IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE, THE PERSON USES THE ER AS A PRIMARY PHYSICIAN.
>> THEY PAY IN THE SYSTEM.
>> THEY ARE NOW.
>> HOW MANY OF THE WORKERS THIS WEEK REMOVING TREE LIMBS AND TAKING DOWN TREES ARE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY?
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THE POPULATION GROWTH PLAN.
LURE THEM HERE -- >> WE HAVE TO GO.
THE MAIL BAG.
SEE WHAT THE VIEWERS HAD TO SAY OF THE LAST TWO PROGRAMS.
WE HEARD FROM VICTOR DAWSON FROM ST. LOUIS.
WATCHING DONNYBROOK I WAS UPSET THAT WENDY COMMENTED THAT MY PRESIDENT WAS SO HATED.
I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE'S UNAWARE OF THE ELECTION RESULTS.
LOVE THE SHOW.
RACKS -- REMARKABLE.
ANNA, ADDED -- I'M A GRANDMOTHER OF THE STUDENT PRESENT AT THE SCHOOL.
I HAVE NOTHING DECIDED AND FINALLY FROM CARA.
KUDOS TO ALL THE -- THE ISSUE IN THE CITY WITH RESPECT TO ACCESS SPECIAL EDUCATION.
BILLS 202 AND 3, IMPRESS THAT LAWMAKERS COULD HAVE DEMONSTRATED THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE CITY SCHOOLS BY PASSING THE LEGISLATION.
DON'T FORGET THE E-MAILS.
DONNYBROOK.
CALL THE NINE LINE AT YOUR CONVENIENCE.
WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
AND DO WHAT I DID, LISTEN TO DONNYBROOK ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCAST.
TUNE IN TO THE PBS YOUTUBE CHANNEL, WE HAVE MORE TO COME INCLUDING -- IN THE CITY AND COUNTY JAIL WITHOUT FRESH AIR OR SUNLIGHT SOMETIMES FOR FOUR YEARS.
ARE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS VIOLATED?
HOPE YOU JOIN US FOR THAT, AND NEXT WEEK.
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