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What a redistricting push in Illinois could mean for the midterms as voters in California consider redrawing districts. And a move to end automatic extensions of some immigrant work permits.
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What a redistricting push in Illinois could mean for the midterms as voters in California consider redrawing districts. And a move to end automatic extensions of some immigrant work permits.
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I'm Brandis Friedman.
Here's what we're looking at.
A federal judge considers a temporary restraining order over the conditions at a suburban ICE facility.
The battle over the control of Congress heats up as California voters consider redrawing districts and as lawmakers in Illinois also consider redistricting.
And the Trump administration moves to end automatic renewals for some immigrant work permits.
What it means workers and the larger economy.
>> First off tonight, a federal judge is calling conditions at the ICE Detention center in suburban broadview unacceptable.
He's expected to rule tomorrow on whether to grant a temporary restraining order to address what advocates are calling, quote, inhumane and unlawful conditions at the facility.
The suit filed by the MacArthur Justice Center in Illinois and ACLU, Illinois claims the Broad View facility is overcrowded, lacking beds, hygiene, medical supplies and working showers.
They also say it lacks enough toilets and provides insufficient food and water access.
Federal officials denied those accusations and attorneys for the federal government argue.
But if the restraining order were to be approved as written, it would effectively halt their ability.
>> To execute immigration laws in Illinois.
For more on the testimony given in court today, please visit our website.
Former Vice President Cheney is being remembered tonight as one of the country's most powerful, but also polarizing vice presidents in modern history.
He died yesterday due to complications of pneumonia and cardiac and vascular disease.
Over the years he survived 5 heart attacks as well as a heart transplant.
Cheney was considered quiet force while serving first.
President George HW Bush as Defense secretary.
And later his son, President George W Bush as his vice president for all Cheney's conservatism, though he was publicly supportive of his daughter Mary, who came out as years before broad support for marriage.
And in 2024 twist, Cheney said he was voting for Democrat Kamala Harris for president in opposition to Donald Trump.
He is survived by his wife and daughters.
Cheney was 84 years old.
The city's inspector general says the mayor's office still isn't allowing her to search for gifts that he may have accepted on the city's behalf without reporting them.
Deborah, what's Byrd's office says the mayor's staff blocked watchdog staff twice from accessing a storage room for those gifts as mandated by the city's ethics ordinance.
But the mayor's office disputes that city law entitles the IG to make unannounced inspections of the mayor's office is for more recommendations from the inspector general and how the mayor's office responded to the report.
You can visit our website.
Up next as political observers closely watched California's redistricting vote.
Some Illinois lawmakers are pushing to redraw the state's congressional districts.
More on that right after this.
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>> Republicans and Democrats are in an escalating national fight over congressional seats.
And Illinois is being encouraged to get in the ring.
Some Congress members, including the top House.
Democrats are pushing the state to redraw its districts to gain an additional Democratic seat.
local lawmakers have the final say and as only idea, California is voting today on a redistricting plan that could give Democrats 5 more seats in the Golden State.
So joining us to discuss all of that and more are Elizabeth Grossman, executive director of Common Cause Illinois.
And Ryan's Holley executive director of Change, Illinois.
Thanks to you both for joining us.
So what do you make of when asked this question to both of you?
What do you make of House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries push to redraw the state's districts?
Elizabeth, first to you.
>> Sure.
You know, I think redistricting is really terrible for boaters.
We know that common cause for a long time has respecting.
gerrymander.
That's right.
heard for owners common cause for a long time has stood against gerrymandering.
And we're going to continue to do so.
I think what's happening now is that we're in an unprecedented situation where we have the president, the United States who went to Texas and find me 5 more seats and the Texas Legislature acquiesced and now states are trying to act responsibly, you know, respond to what's happened.
And so I think that's what's happening here as organization Common Cause never supports gerrymandering.
We think that that's really, really bad for voters.
But if a state like Illinois is going to do it, we've developed fairness principles for the state to ensure that this is really a limited thing, including a promise that they will.
They will adhere to fair maps in the future.
>> So Ryan, same question to you.
What do you make of House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries push to get Illinois to do that?
>> very concerned about it.
That change Illinois.
I mean, gerrymandering is a form voter suppression.
gerrymandering happens, voters have it's much harder for them to hold elected leaders accountable who is likely to win is pretty determined for them.
And so we understand you have the national landscape of this like Gerrymandering is wrong in the state of Texas.
It wrong in Illinois.
But for Illinois voters here, we should really, you know, be concerned about further attempts to gerrymander the state's congressional district.
>> So Texas is facing legal challenges after its remapping August California.
Also voting on reading redistricting plan to get Democrats 5 more seats.
Indiana also considering remapping there.
Although there's a question of whether or not lawmakers actually have an appetite to do this.
Ryan is more states start to move forward with redrawing their districts.
Is there a case that Illinois should do the same in in the interest of of balancing were tipping the scales for us?
I don't think so Illinois itself has been highly gerrymandered pre-dated the 2021 room at our state.
>> You know, we lost a congressional seat Democrats redraw the map to give them selves.
A 43 advantage essentially eliminating to republic formerly Republican seats in the state.
And so we're starting to from a point where the state itself is highly gerrymandered.
So there's bit very slim margins to pick up additional seats for Democrats.
And so the political reality we live in the state is is there's not a lot more they can do without this missing some of the districts.
That that are currently either black majority are black per per hour.
districts which would diminish on black communities voice and that congressional map.
>> So, yeah, want to come back to that a little bit as as So both of your organizations have pushed for redistricting reform that allows relapse to be independently.
Us Senator Durbin when he joined us a couple of months ago, said that he couldn't support that unless all of the states were doing that versus just one state here in one state.
There is that what it would take to you think Elizabeth, want to come to you on this first and how do you sell that to politicians across the country that it should be nationwide?
Not just sporadically across different states.
>> I think that the conversation is as really expanding now where people are thinking about whether this needs to happen nationally.
We absolutely support that happening nationally.
I think that's absolutely right.
I think that the states that have pushed for independent maps, independent maps process are doing that in order to give the voters in that state, their voice.
It's really important that the voters are the ones selecting the politicians and not the other way around.
But I think that we can to fall and we're going to continue to fight here in Illinois that process that actually centers the voters while also fighting for reforms nationally.
Ryan, same question to you.
How do you get all the states to to get on board with Yeah, ideally there would be a national solution that would, you know, make sure it's a level playing call across the country.
I would also encourage folks to think about to let our local level our city council districts are drawn by politicians.
The county districts are drawn by the elected leaders there.
>> We could start reform locally and build up to that.
There's many ways to implement independent redistricting that puts the power back in the hands of voters at the local level.
That doesn't even wade into this congressional fight over.
You know, Congress control of Congress where we can start building momentum and support across the country that could lead to a movement nationally.
>> Illinois currently has 14 Democratic seats, 3 of them or excuse me, 3 Republican seats as we already stated, Ryan, how much of a power shift could you know, another Democratic seat make in a state that is already pretty blue.
And to your earlier point, what's the impact going to be on black voter support.
Yeah.
So I want one of the things they have to look at to Yeah, they would change the map.
>> There would still be the 28 election 2030, election before the next scheduled remapping.
So can they pass a map that would give Democrats more seats that could withstand through a few more elections?
And that's the biggest question them.
I think in weighing the political viability of this.
Can you actually, you know, add seats that that would last until the next time we did this?
The other question comes as we're lose, where do get additional, you know, areas of the state that would Democratic.
And the concern is that you want finish black voting power in the state by doing that.
And because there's, you know, when you look downstate Western Illinois, there's not a lot of areas, again, Democrats.
And so then you have to start looking at the suburban area and the city to to add additional seat for them.
>> Elizabeth Common cause, as you said, you will you've listed criteria for redistricting calling for more racial equity for voters of color in public participation as At the same time, though, the Supreme Court has said or if they considering whether there should be an expiration date for race as a factor in drawing voting districts.
Is it possible for Illinois to create a new district without further hurting voter representation?
>> It's hard to say.
I haven't seen the maps.
They're not making maps publicly available.
And that's also one of our criteria that there needs to be public participation in this process and that historically been something that Illinois legislature's our legislators are are not willing to do.
But you know, absolutely.
I think we need to continue to focus on the way that voter suppression has impacted black about movies in particular.
It is not racially neutral.
It historically has been a tool of racism.
And so I think it is a mistake to eliminate race from the consideration.
And that is why that is one of our criteria in this file is that we are ensuring that any new maps are not a leading the political power of communities of color.
What are some your other criteria?
The public participation is huge and they also need to expires.
So we know that we're in an unusual situation, but these are not to be the maps that will continue on a 6 pirates before 2030.
And we also want all the Legislature's that they're considering new maps to also promised that they're going to go and fight for independent, not process.
And we think the best way to do that is federally Ryan.
What does it mean?
What would it mean for some Illinois voters to be moved into a new district if that should happen?
Yeah.
>> It means it's harder to hold elected officials accountable.
The more that we gerrymander the state, it just means outcomes are pretty determined.
Voters have less and We already know in Illinois that our elections from congressional down to state races are not competitive.
And that's not unique.
Illinois problem.
But it is something we should be using redistricting as a tool fix, not one to entrenched power.
Redistricting should be a tool to put more power in the hands of voters to hold elected officials accountable.
Not the other way around.
What is your advice then to Illinois lawmakers as their sort of approaching this consideration knowing what some other states, Indiana, in particular might be doing.
>> Yeah.
for us, I think every state should be waiting until the 2031 cents us to do or a This is not, you know.
>> It's highly unusual to unprecedented, but it's highly unusual for there to be of mid decade remapping.
This is all about political control gaining power of Congress.
And so for us, you know, this, we should hold off ensure for the next redistricting process that there stuff in place to make sure that voters can participate in process, have a say and have districts that truly empower them.
Okay.
So we'll have to leave it.
We'll see what at what all the lawmakers come up with.
Ryan Talia, Elizabeth Grossman, thanks so much for joining us.
Thanks for having us.
Thank you.
>> Up next, the Trump administration is ending automatic renewals for some immigrant work permits.
What it means for workers and employers.
The Trump administration is moving to end automatic extensions to some immigrant work permits.
What a work permit expired under the Biden administration.
Immigrants were given a 540 day extension so they can still legally work while there renewal request was in consideration, the Department of Homeland Security says the change aims to increase vetting and ensure national security.
But critics say it could have large-scale ramifications for the economy and impact both thousands of workers and many more thousands of Americans who rely on the jobs.
Those workers do.
Joining us with more on the potential impact our nubia Willman in attorney and the chief programs officer for Latinos.
Progress on do and We have a trio Rosco senior policy counsel for the American Immigration Council.
And Jackie Stephens, political science professor and founding director of the Deportation Research Clinic at Northwestern University.
Thanks to all 3 of you for joining us.
Nubia starting with you, please.
How will this impact workers who had been receiving these extensions up to now?
>> It will really cause fear at a concern for their livelihood because there's going to be inevitably a delay.
Government is not precise.
It's not necessarily quick.
sometimes that process takes between 3 to 6 to 10 months.
And so this idea you'll be able to file and still receive before your work permit expires isn't necessarily accurate.
And that's why this policy was put in place to begin with.
And so now we're sort of back at square one where workers are going to have to reconsider if they're going to be even eligible for work.
And their employers are also gonna have to figure out what their duties are.
If this person no longer has work authorization, so really puts everything on its that mean that, you know, some folks in the in the interim right are going to be without a legal work permit without legal work authorization.
Yes, very possible if their work permit expires and they're no longer eligible for this extension, they might be in this limbo where there are no longer eligible to work with this authorization.
And so their employers are going to have to be responsive.
>> And it can really make even more difficult.
What kind of workers will this impact industries?
So far?
I workers are everywhere.
Immigrants are working in all sectors in on this is I think what's important is that this extension is getting removed from folks who are potentially apply for asylum for survivors of domestic violence, who's our spouses or pine for them, they will no longer be eligible for this extension.
So any no particular industry or a impacted more than others?
No, not necessarily.
It's more this the immigrants themselves about their employers, their employees have a duty as employers re that your Department of Labor gives you things that you have to do.
And so if your work are no longer has work authorization, there are certain steps you have to take.
And that also has employer.
Those are steps that you are now have to fill poll done on you and have to then work through, which is also some more chaos and more responsibilities.
Lot more questions.
sure.
So when announcing this change, the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement, quote, It's a common sense measure to ensure appropriate vetting and screening has been completed before and aliens employment authorization or documentation is extended.
All aliens must remember that working in the United States is a privilege, not a right.
A first.
What do you make of that statement?
And with the lack of renewals puts immigrants at risk of being detained by ICE?
>> Well, I do think it's really important to emphasize you know, part of the process here for a person to get a work permit extension is for them actually practice.
We file an application to renew their work permit, which has their name, which has as they're paying for this.
They also have a benefit like with it might be an asylum application Rva Green Card application.
It also impacts refugees and asylees to some extent, right, because that at some of them want to use these Berkman says identity docking just easy way to prove that there weren't authorized.
So the government has every tool that needs to be able to that individuals and fact the reason why I like it was sent by yet is that that work permit extension rule has been in place since at least 2016 in some form is to help with gaps in employment to make sure that there's certainty.
So the government is able to that individuals, if he wants to, just doesn't have the resources right now to do so.
And streamlined as we for our current applications take months to process us.
actually requests individuals to submit the 6 months in advance.
But there are plenty of applications are going to be impacted but take more than 6 months to process.
So I do think that there isn't a strong base is here with government is arguing that they don't have the tools to be able to properly vet individuals.
>> Adria what options are available for those who whose work permits may expire in the interim maybe they're Are they not able to work at that point?
Not legally.
Anyway.
But unfortunately.
>> work permit expires before they would be able to work up to 6 months or even 540 days.
That was extended divided administration.
But if there were critics buyers and their new it hasn't been approved.
they have to stop working unless they might have some legal ramifications for their benefit applications.
So this is what's going to cause a lot of confusion and a lot of uncertainty for employers and workers because they may have been waiting until last Thursday.
They might have a month left 5 months left on their current work permit thinking that they were going to benefit from the previous extension.
But now because that's constantly at the end of last week, they might submitted their application.
But I wasn't take months for that to occur.
So people might be happy to lose weeks, even months of work because of this change.
>> Jackie Stephens, ICE has been we know detaining asylum seekers temporary protected status.
Many other immigrants and refugees who have documentation.
>> How likely is it that people with expired work parent permits will then be targeted?
Because, you know, as we heard a drill say, you know, the old this documentation provides information on where people are living and working.
>> thank you question.
what it does is it enlarges the scope of people who are going to be subject to ice, arrests, sand and harassment puts people who are already in a precarious position in further jeopardy.
Tell me more.
What are what are your primary concerns for how this role might impact the economy at large?
>> Right.
So I mean, this will was rolled out in the most irresponsible way possible that the 2024 Biden rule that this is revising what through meticulous estimates.
And talked about the impact of rule on the economy.
benefit?
>> It's just federal government increasing taxes that collected by allowing people remain in authorized to work you know, therefore, in their talks, the new completely disregards any kind estimates on the economy that are supposed to be there by and instead of that.
But think is in kind of You're wandering throwing around Trump's about national security and Molotov cocktails and, you know, a lot you know, kind of snowy is that are talk and not tied to the conditions of hundreds of thousands of people are lawfully in the country and lawfully employed.
You know, the concern about terrorists and so vetting disregards the fact that this is a renewal.
So the people who are working have already been authorized and if there are any particular problems are criminal histories and so forth, those are going to caught by, you know, monitoring and police and so forth and regular kinds you know, run for its money operations that we have present.
There's new evidence at all someone having work authorization is going to be more likely to commit crime.
And in fact, if you remove the work authorization, it obviously follows that people are going to be incentivized to, you know, to to try find a workaround exactly, to find alternative, makes an income.
aside going to go into a drill?
Are there any grounds for a lawsuit against the Trump >> around this rule change?
>> Well, you know, I think there are definitely people are looking into an was mentioning some of the bases here for this rule's implementation and actually bypassing public Notice I things that lawyers are looking about So do we do expect that litigation could be forthcoming because just like other rules that we've seen, that there isn't a lot proper analysis of the impact of this rule.
And there's no ability for people to have a meaningful voice and how it's being constructed.
>> New be aware, obviously we're past October 30th as when this took effect.
And it happened obviously very quickly taking immediate effect.
What can workers due to prepare themselves for renewing their permits now in this new process?
Absolutely.
If you have an attorney, an immigration attorney, you should go and speak to them about renewing your application and you should look to see what you're trying frame is best practices.
180 days.
>> Maybe even more.
You should check to see your processing times what you can do online.
It's just important at this point in time to make sure you're getting a consultation by trusted license immigration attorney or credited DOJ wrapped in sure.
But you know what?
Your options are kind of resources.
Do you recommend people go in search of?
Well, you can come to that.
He knows pro Dot to learn more about the services that we provide and we're happy to cover for all Southern partners as Drills in question to you was what resources do you recommend people go searching for?
>> Well, I do think that it's really important stay on top of the news.
Make sure people hear about any losses that are being imposed against this.
But also I people should go and check their right now and make sure that if their ability carry it is about to end opposed to ending.
But they You know, as the V a said, head and think about some those applications.
>> All right.
That's where we'll have to leave the best of luck to those folks who are dealing with this new process.
Nubia Willman a drill rose going.
Jackie Stephens, thanks all of you for joining We're back to wrap things up right after this.
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Illinois Lawmakers Consider Redistricting Ahead of 2026 Midterms
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Clip: 11/4/2025 | 9m 38s | Illinois could soon join an escalating national fight over congressional seats. (9m 38s)
Trump Administration Moves to End Automatic Renewals for Some Work Permits
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