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>> Thank you very much for joining us for Last Call.

Let's get to some of the topics we didn't get to.

Uh Bill, in the first uh half of the show, we did not get to talk about the St.

Patrick's Day parade.

Uh Moren McGlin, whose father Joe started the parade in downtown St.

Louis in 1969 told Dan Neman of your paper that uh the costs are going up for porta-a-potties, for guard rails, for tents, uh for security, and this parade costs between 350 and $450,000 a year.

It's a it's a tradition here in St.

Louis.

Um we don't want to see it go the way of CityFest or the Midwest Wingfest or >> Strassenfest.

>> What else do we lose?

a couple of other >> Evolution recently.

>> Evolution only one year only.

But uh should should Rams money be spent to keep the St.

Patrick's parade in downtown St.

Louis?

>> No, no, no, it shouldn't.

I I think that if if they can if St.

Patrick's Day parade people downtown and I I'm a fan of the Hibernian parade in Dogtown.

It just seems more authentic and it I and I go to that one.

If the people in the downtown parade want to raise money, they have to do it through corporations and they have to convince corporations that this is a like naming rights on a stadium that this is a good way to uh promote your company.

But I don't think public money should be used for the St.

Patrick's Day parade.

>> I agree.

And you know, the Annie Malone parade was in dire straits.

I guess in February and by March it had had been saved and and ironically the tornado hit the day before the Annie Malone parade and so it was not held.

Um but I think people just need to step up and I'm not saying $350,000 is a little bit of money, but it is something that could be raised and the parade would go on.

I it it's sad that you have to like put it out there that it's in danger of not being had for people to respond, but I guess that's where we're at.

But there'll be a St.

Patrick's Day parade.

Don't worry about it.

>> Yeah, there will be a there will definitely be a response.

And I agree with you.

That was I always thought of the downtown parade as more of the, you know, corporate the civic progress parade, you know, but if if it came to Ram's money to save the the St.

Patrick's Day parade that I think that would that would almost kill me because when we have gone from something so this was transformative with a capital T funding like you know civic pride parades and that kind that would that would be that would be a real uh loss >> and then once you do that now somebody else you've opened up the floodgates that's that's right you said the president that maybe we'll spend some of that money that would be terrible well that's true I mean we were able to spend that something transformative even lower lower case.

>> If if a parade is transformative, then my gosh, let's have more parades.

>> Uh I I I have to admit to a bias.

I've been scarred by parades.

About the first five years I was at the Post Dispatch.

I was like the newest guy because they didn't hire anybody right away.

So I had to cover parades.

There are no good news stories in parades.

So, I kind of have this uh >> a twitch >> a twitch when I hear about a parade because you'd have to go up to people and they'd go, "Oh, it's great."

And it was the same story every year about whatever parade.

But I think it comes there people go, "Oh, this is a great parade."

Well, then pony up.

>> They will, >> you know, and they probably will.

>> What about merging it with Dog Town?

>> Oh, no.

That'll never happen.

>> The Hibernians, that's more authentic.

It's like a small town.

authentic families not authentic families marching in the parade clans more or less as opposed to the downtown parade.

>> I I don't I don't think they would merge succ what you need to do is convince some company Charlie that this you know you can have the Reed Reed Company St.

Patrick's Day parade or something.

But I no problem could be.

You know my story.

My daughters are more Irish than my wife are more Irish than most people at the at the St.

Patrick's Day.

>> You know what?

That's a fact.

>> That's a fact.

[laughter] My people are northern Irish.

>> Alvin, I want to ask you about uh a lawsuit.

I think it's a strange one.

Doug Burus uh headed up a company called AA, but then he was accused by the Securities and Exchange Commission of the investors and spending the money on personal luxurious stuff.

But then uh the IRS came after him and said, "You owe us money.

You've swindled the government."

And so he pleaded guilty, went to jail for five years.

He got out and wanted to start a new company called Sentinel.

And he did, but uh the SEC rules basically prohibited a bad actor like him from participating in a lot of the various activities that he was engaged in.

That's understandable because he had that checkered past.

He's now suing Katherine Hannoway, the state attorney general for Missouri, and some of her former law colleagues, saying that they gave him bad advice, saying that, hey, he was able to do all this securities work even after he had spent 5 years at the Greybar Motel.

Now, let me ask you this.

Do you think there's any possible way that he's got a case?

Um, I don't know that he has a winnable case, but I think he has a case.

Now, Lady Justice is blind.

Okay.

>> Allegedly.

>> Allegedly.

All right.

So, those of us that have ran a file of the law and are nefarious and have been in all kind of trouble and we get an attorney to try to get our lives back together again and set attorney says like, "Oh, you're good, Alvin, man.

You're you're good.

You can do this, that, and the other thing."

And then after you have taken people's money and invested it, you find out that you got bad allegedly got bad advice.

Pursue a lawsuit.

I am not mad at at Mr.

Burus for pursuing this even though he might be less than reputable character.

It doesn't matter if he got bad advice and he's taking action.

He he's within his rights and I'm not mad at him for >> Well, anybody can sue anybody for anything, but I don't think this would be a story if it weren't Katherine Hannoway.

>> Ding ding ding ding ding.

>> You know who's who's the attorney general.

So it it doesn't mean that she's culpable here, but it just makes it more of a story.

It makes it bold bold type as you newspaper types.

>> I I think it's a brief on our business page if it's not Katherine Hannoway.

That's right.

>> To state that a because here's the other thing.

First of all, this case goes back to 2012, 2013.

So, I'm not sure I have a good grips on how culpable or liable a group of attorneys were 13 years ago.

And what this is is like a medical malpractice.

It's a he said, she said.

So, I don't know who was wrong.

Did Mr.

Burus say he got bad advice?

That's what he says.

Will the other side say no you didn't?

That's probably what they'll say.

I think the only pertinent question here was did Mr.

Burrus have to shovel sidewalk.

[laughter] >> Other than that, I mean, I say let the case go to court and we'll all find out what happened.

>> It'll be interesting to watch.

>> But I think it might be because of the law firm in involved.

It's high-profile law firm, so it may be a little bit more than a brief.

I'm not saying it's a front page story, but it might be a little bit more than a brief because it is a high-profile law firm >> with a high-profile name.

>> Right.

That's so I think it Hey, Wendy.

Uh, the Bilicans basketball team for St.

Louis University are now 21 and one for the first time in their 111 year history.

They have such a record.

Do you think it's possible if they continue their winning ways that this will become a basketball town?

anything's anything's possible, but right now it's just so exciting to have a winning franchise and and especially with Slooh and the generational alums who are involved and who go year after year and stay with them.

So, it's it's just it's exciting and we all need to jump on the the >> I'm on the bandwagon.

I'll be there tomorrow.

You will >> I've never been to New Hampshire, Wendy.

Well, >> but I'm gonna be at the Slooh [laughter] game against Dayton tomorrow.

>> That's great.

It would be cool if uh if Slooh somehow got to play in the uh first round, which is here in St.

Louis.

That would be kind of cool.

But quite frankly, they probably won't.

They'll probably ship someplace else because that would give them a definite homec court advantage.

You know, to my man Earl Austin and Bob Ramsey.

Look, man, they bleed Bilick and Blue and I I feel great for them.

It's very exciting.

Very >> exciting.

And you know, big game tomorrow if they win that one.

>> But do you think this will become a basketball town?

>> No, because we are we are a baseball town.

Okay.

And that's yeah, even always have we always and always will be.

And it we we are during the dark we're more of a football town than we are a basketball town.

I mean we we don't have a National Football League franchise, but but if you look at ratings and all that, we watch more football.

>> I I think what St.

Louis does when it comes we are and I think Alvin nailed it.

We are a baseball town.

And I think unless you're a huge city like New York or LA, most towns are a fill in the blank.

I have relatives from Pittsburgh.

That's a football town.

>> Now, there have been great pirate teams over the years.

>> Roberto Clementi.

No, they've they've won their championship 50 years ago.

>> Exactly.

You would need a consistent record of winning now.

People in St.

Louis are celebrating the Billikans.

I think it's great.

We had good teams under Rich Grower, >> Charlie Spoonhour, Cruz, and Majaras.

We've went to the tournament four years in a row back in the 20s or 2010s.

I think we love it, but is this going to become some basketball town?

No.

>> Right.

And >> I think I think it could because um a lot of the baseball fans are like me.

They're older and we're not going to be around forever.

>> Well, that's true.

>> And the young folks like basketball.

>> It just it's one of those things where like if you go to the base here in St.

Louis and talk about basketball.

It's Missouri, it's Illinois, it's Kansas, it's it's bigger schools and people just look, I'm not hating on Slooh, but it's a small private school doing really really great at basketball.

And most of the region says like that's great.

Go boys, go Bills.

Go Bills.

>> And if they get into the Big East, I think there's a bigger chance that they'll be >> That's a discussion for next week perhaps.

Thank you so much for joining us.

See you next time.