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Hey, welcome to the Last Call where we pick up some things we couldn't get to in the first go around on Donnybrook.

Bill, you own a car.

And you park it sometimes, do you?

And if I remember correctly, you've gotten some parking tickets.

I have.

There you go.

Well, Bevis Schock has seen to it that the city is going to lose out on thousands of dollars because I guess they have the wrong verbiage on the ticket about what the person is charged with.

You think this is, I mean, you know, rights are rights, laws are laws.

Right.

Bevis is like one of those kids in school who's always right.

And you just think, oh, Beavis.

And like this is Boston, the city, thousands of dollars.

And Bevis was right.

And Bevis, you know, he famously got that homeless guy a million dollars or something for, you know, it's legal to run between cars and solicit money.

And I suppose it is.

But I wish they wouldn't do it.

And on this, the fact that Beavis found a loophole that people can drive their cars through.

Good for Beavis.

But I'm not celebrating.

That's a good analogy.

And I remember seven years ago writing stories about the parking division over time, including having a brother in law who sold a car two years prior and was still getting ticketed for tickets he hadn't paid after he had sent him proof that he had sold the car.

You know, I mean, so and then they didn't collect fines for years, didn't boo cars.

Then all of a sudden some stories go, hey, you guys haven't been doing that.

Well, let's start now.

And then they do it wrong.

Well, I mean, and this is a question that I don't have an answer to, because I can ask you the the how a ticket is worded or what the violation is.

Doesn't that come from, like, the city statutes?

Yes.

Yeah.

So that wouldn't necessarily be the parking division, i.e.

the Treasury Department's fault, I think.

I don't know.

But the Treasury Department operates that whole game.

It's under them.

And it's I mean, I believe people should get parking tickets for illegally parking.

I'm not saying that.

And a city should do it in an efficient and timely manner to collect those things.

But when in a case if like somebody sells their car, don't keep ticketing them for not paying.

You know, so if you show a little proficiency in doing your job, I have no problem.

Instead, what it does is now when someone like Bevis comes up and smacks someone, I'm like, right on, you know, I mean, so that's that's it.

Eddie, that's it.

OK, well, this actually came up before last week's show, but right before it.

So we didn't get a chance to talk about it.

The Missouri History Museum is now going to be called the St.

Louis History Museum.

And it bothers me.

I'm sorry.

I don't know.

Maybe I'm just an old guy.

Get off my lawn and keep my names the way they were.

But I think it should be the Missouri History Museum.

Wendy?

Jody Sowell, who is the CEO of the History Museum, has certainly apparently put these wheels into motion.

I think it's been over a year that he's wanted to do this.

And the reasoning behind it, I guess I'm not I'm not as bothered by it as my get off the lawn, you know, fellow boomers.

But because I love his his logic is it works, you know, because he's saying that we are going to nobody comes here for Rolla, you know, for the history of Rolla or Columbia or what have you.

And so it it actually is a St.

Louis History Museum.

And he has you're shaking your head.

He has also promised to include the Metro East, you know, a little bit more.

So I'm going to be a curmudgeon with you.

OK, get off my lawn.

First of all, it seemed like it got smaller.

And again, I love the museum and I love the work they do.

But when it comes to branding, which is, you know, a thing, it seems like we went from being statewide.

Now we just got smaller.

And part of our history is how St.

Louis affected the entire state.

Right.

And Lewis and Clark didn't just march around St.

Louis.

You know, I mean, so now it to me seems less by being the St.

Louis History Museum.

I mean, everybody who lives here knows it's about St.

Louis is the hub, but it also does stretch out in directions.

And I think Missouri was a better name for it.

And I'll also there's I don't think there's a whole tons of people just flying into St.

Louis to visit a history museum.

They might be catching ballgames, go up in the arch.

I think they will go to the trolley to it and the trolley and the trolley, you know, and, you know, come by the Donnybrook said if they get a chance.

But I mean, so to me, it just went from being a statewide thing to now it's just citywide.

And I love them.

I love the job they do.

But I wish it was the only thing history.

I. OK, I am going to have to disagree with you, Joe.

I think it's good.

There you go.

I think the issue that I have and I think the reason why I'm OK with it going to St.

Louis, if you actually go, the exhibits are very St.

Louis centric.

And having lived in mid-Missouri and having family in Kansas City, those places are just so much different than St.

Louis.

If it was a museum that focused on like the entirety of Missouri, I think I would be probably more I'd probably be more with you.

But I think the fact that the actual content is St.

Louis probably makes it Should we change the name of the program to Joe Brook?

Would that be?

Yeah, well, you know, the St.

Louis Science Center, the St.

Louis Art Museum.

I agree.

St.

Louis Zoo.

I'm all right with it.

And, you know, I mean, calling it the St.

Louis History Museum does not bother me.

It's funny you you actually, you know, put some rationale and sound argument.

I hate that.

I just hate it.

Thank you, Joe.

I got no reason.

I hate it.

Well, you know, we're approaching Halloween and it was a nice kind of like Halloweeny fall day today.

It was.

Have you ever heard of Havenwood?

Well, Havenwood would be a gigantic housing development in Fort Snell.

And I have a quick story.

One time when girls were little, we were driving back into St.

Louis from out in Manhattan, Kansas, almost home, but we had to make a little bathroom break.

It's like 10 o'clock at night.

We stopped at a McDonald's not to eat, but just to use the restroom.

And somebody from Forestdale introduced himself and said, like, hey, you're the guy on that television program.

And I was this is before I was like a regular.

And I said, like, wow, they they they know me and I was impressed.

So all right.

And Havenwood, that frightens me.

But hey, I'm not afraid of a community growing larger through a development of homes.

Now, I don't know about the good people in, you know, Forestdale.

Think about it.

But when do you you had mentioned they're about to have a data center and now they're supposed in the spring.

I mean, they were talking about it out there in the spring.

So I'm not sure exactly what the what the status is at this hour.

But that would be a whole lot development.

Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I think it's kind of an inevitability.

St.

Charles County has been the fastest growing county in, I think, the state, one of the biggest in the nation.

And similar to, like, St.

Louis County, where a lot of the population moved west, I think it is inevitable that we were going to see more population going to the western edge, especially since the eastern and the central is pretty dense at this point.

So I think I think housing is always something that is needed.

There's obviously been a lot of controversy in St.

Charles County over apartment complexes, which is not really what we're talking about here.

But I'm not really against more housing being built in a municipality, even though it's small.

Well, and I agree with Jason.

See, we're like, first of all, I don't ever understand why anybody complains about residents being created.

If you don't want to move there, don't.

I mean, it's like they're going to make me live in Havenwood or Ravenwood or whatever.

No, I can live wherever I want.

And, you know, and especially also when you're talking about developments, they'll go, well, we're losing all this land, too.

Well, guess what?

When they built your house.

Yeah, that's true.

There was land lost there.

And there's probably somebody going, look at all those houses, you know, in the 1940s when they were building houses in Clayton or whatever.

Look at all the trees are going to cut down.

So then people move into it and complain about the trees are going to cut down somewhere else.

The trees in my area, that was good that we cut them down for my house.

So, you know, if Forestel is going to get a data center and they're going to get 800 homes.

Great.

Well, I haven't heard anybody complain about it.

I mean, you don't know.

Is it just the name that's weird?

I think the story itself lint that there are some that you were going to hear voices.

Oh, always.

I live in Forestel and I like it the way it was.

Just like Jeffco, like Southern Jeffco where there's nobody that's what I'm saying.

I'm kind of refuting like, hey, I'm sorry that you live there and you were, you know, I don't think you're going to lose this bucolic community.

At the same time.

I think, hey, you know, the future catches up with everyone and it's kind of your turn.

And I easy for me to say that I don't have a problem with it.

Now, the one thing about our houses when they cut the trees down was probably when Lewis and Clark were actually going through.

Well, anyway, Charlie will be back next week.

I love hanging out you guys in this seat, but I'm going to be back in mind where Jason is tonight.

Jason, thanks for hanging out with us.

And thank you for hanging out with us on Last Call.

See you next week.